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re: Ok Aggies.. Johnny's Heisman doesn't really count
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:04 pm to Master of Sinanju
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:04 pm to Master of Sinanju
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12 tackles, 1 tackles for loss, a fumble recovery and 2 passes broken up.
Wow. What could JFF do to ever top that?
Two tackles and a forced fumble on the same play. And then scored on the next one.
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:04 pm to loyalauron
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:04 pm to WG_Dawg
maybe they're just still upset that Ron Paulus didn't win his 4 heismans
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:05 pm to WG_Dawg
You're lucky. As a Catholic I have to hear their fans BS all the damn time.
My favorite is when a-holes who defended the Church up and down for its handling of the POS pedo priests turn around and bash JFF for underage drinking and a fake ID.
My favorite is when a-holes who defended the Church up and down for its handling of the POS pedo priests turn around and bash JFF for underage drinking and a fake ID.
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:06 pm to Alahunter
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I think it's good all these young folk are able to witness the aura of ND entitlement and delusion. Most thought I was exaggerating about how bad it used to be, now they'll get to witness it the next few yrs.
These are older folks, 40-75. I just think its funny that the main fault to the heisman in recent years has been, the best player on the best team issue, and then they redeem themselves and actualy give it to a great player, then madness ensues. Teo stats were very meh, he should not have even been a finalist
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:07 pm to WG_Dawg
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I remember in 2002 (I think? It was early 2000s) ND started the season unranked,
I dont believe it
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:09 pm to NYCAuburn
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I dont believe it
It happened this year, too.
The media loves ND. That's why they severely underrated the Irish. Start the season unranked, finish in the national championship.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:12 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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The media loves ND. That's why they severely underrated the Irish. Start the season unranked, finish in the national championship.
Wrong. They were forced to rank them outside the top 25 after whiffing for however many straight years.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:15 pm to NYCAuburn
ND fans want best player on best team this year when Paul Hornung won it when ND won 2 games!
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:20 pm to Alahunter
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The Heisman has been diminished by not choosing Manti Te'o. I believe that with all my heart.
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The result just made a joke of the trophy and what it should stand for...
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To be honest I am quite sick of the amount of love the guy has gotten. Yes he is a good football player you can't take that away from him but people keep saying I can't believe what he did in the sec. Look at their schedule! Just take a look and you'll see how weak it was. He played alabama, lsu and florida that's about it. His more impressive games were against much weaker schools and he really played bad against LSU. I could go on about how Manti should win the heisman over him but I don't wanna get started. Back to the topic, some might think I'm foolish to compare Golson and Manziel. For starters they play in completely different offenses. Golson is asked to be much more of a game manager where Manziel plays in an offense where the offense is built and called around him. Manziel is very improvisational and fast, makes many plays on his feet. For a young guy he takes care of the ball fairly well and has a good enough arm to get by. But I just watched his film for the second or third time and was more drawn towards how weak the schedule was. He's a good player no doubt, but he is getting way too much fame from this season. His o-line is great and he has a sensational freshman and Ryan Swopes who I think is going to be a huge steal in the second or third round. Golson first off doesn't get the amount of passing plays as manziel and has missed some time. I can't say Golson is as fast as Manziel but he isn't far behind. I think he is also just as good as feeling the pressure and escaping it. I have never seen someone so light and swift footed as Everett. Golson No doubt about it has the stronger arm, also probably one of the strongest arms in the whole country. As well Golson is very good at taking care of the ball, the few picks he threw I see as growing pains that he'll overcome by next season. There isn't many things Golson does wrong, he's very accurate as well and lets remember he's the same age as Manziel. I just found it odd after watching film on the guy who will probably win the heisman ( undeserved however), that I would no doubt in my mind still take Golson. I think Golson is better suited for our offense, but I'd still take him over Manziel in any offense. Anyone else feel the same when they watch Manziel?
FYI, the QB who was benched against Michigan is better than Manziel.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:24 pm to Tds & Beer
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whiffing for however many straight years.
This.
Year --- Preseason AP rank ---- Final ranking
2011-----16--------------------NR
2009-----23--------------------NR
2003-----20--------------------NR
2001-----18--------------------NR
1999-----18--------------------NR
1997-----11--------------------NR
1994-----2---------------------NR
1985-----14--------------------NR
1984-----8---------------------NR
1983-----6---------------------NR
1982-----18--------------------NR
1981-----3---------------------NR
1979-----9---------------------NR
1975-----10--------------------NR
1960-----17--------------------NR
1956-----3---------------------NR
1951-----14--------------------NR
1950-----1---------------------NR
Furthermore... 37 out of 55 preseason poll appearances, they finished worse.
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:26 pm to Alahunter
I think they were ranked in the top 25 pre-season in 2009 too.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:27 pm to rmn9799
Just because we beat a team by 20 doesn't mean they were a bad team
Ole Miss and Ms St are solid squads. They just had the misfortune of playing 3 Top 10 teams in their same division. They are Top 30 teams in the nation though if you were to do a power ranking IMO.
Buuuut... Doesn't matter. Won Heisman
Ole Miss and Ms St are solid squads. They just had the misfortune of playing 3 Top 10 teams in their same division. They are Top 30 teams in the nation though if you were to do a power ranking IMO.
Buuuut... Doesn't matter. Won Heisman
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:28 pm to rmn9799
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rmn9799
Added it. All of ND's end of season NR's ran together.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:30 pm to Alahunter
I think Manti said it all when interviewed after the ceremony and asked what he thought about Johnny Football. Something to the effect "He creates things out of nothing".
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:32 pm to Alahunter
quote:a&m fans have dealt with tu's for a century. i think we can handle ND's
think it's good all these young folk are able to witness the aura of ND entitlement and delusion
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:33 pm to Screamer
A kid that A&M is recruiting is coached by Manti's dad in Hawaii. When asked about the Heisman he said he thinks JFF should win it.
He's expected to commit to us soon. He's being recruited by Brian Polian. Who was at ND and recruited Mant Te'o previously.
He's expected to commit to us soon. He's being recruited by Brian Polian. Who was at ND and recruited Mant Te'o previously.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:37 pm to Big Kat
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Ole Miss and Ms St are solid squads. They just had the misfortune of playing 3 Top 10 teams in their same division. They are Top 30 teams in the nation though if you were to do a power ranking IMO. Buuuut... Doesn't matter. Won Heisman
I agree. My observation has been that when you pay a Big 12 style offense, you either meet a certain threshold or they put 35+ points on you. The middle ground seems very small. Ole Miss and Miss State don't meet that threshold.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:39 pm to Big Kat
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He's expected to commit to us soon.
Isaac is gonna be a beast, a better Te'o
Posted on 12/10/12 at 1:39 pm to Alahunter
Don't matter, won Heisman.
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