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re: Ohio State's Florida Satellite camp draws over 600 players
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:16 am to skrayper
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:16 am to skrayper
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Why would they bother? Talent's way better here; why else do you think they're so desperate to find loopholes to slip some of these kids some good ol' Northern incentive.
Why waste time going to midwest for talent? I want Miles to have a camp in LA, Atl, Miami, Houston, and Dallas.
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:21 am to WeeWee
Your coach recruits the Midwest so that might be one reason.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:44 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
tOSU and Michigan = rising sun
Bama = tDecline is real
Bama = tDecline is real
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:45 am to VABuckeye
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Your coach recruits the Midwest so that might be one reason.
Not enough to waste a satellite camp on.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:56 am to Alert Mi
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LSU fans on message boards far and wide were howling like swamp rats
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A running theme among their ignorant fan-base was that,
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I remember thinking how amazingly stupid all of them seemed at the time
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What none of them knew, because they are LSU fans,
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I still feel that the general consensus among LSU fans is that Alabama is now and always has been reliant on talent from Louisiana. It is weird.
Wow man, you sure are one angry POS.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Meyer spoke about players being “the solution” on their respective teams
LOL
I can still remember Urbs first talk at the Polk County gator club before his first year when he said in order to play for UF a player would have to be not only exceptional on the field but also in the classroom and the community. And we see how that worked out for him. He's a devious SOB that will eventually do the same thing to Ohio State.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:36 am to bengalbait
First cold day in Columbus, those Florida kids that commit to Ohio State are going to be wishing they didn't...
PS. I hate Urban Liar.
PS. I hate Urban Liar.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 8:37 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:44 am to Lonnie Utah
The rules should be the same across the board among the conferences. Saban should be able to hold a camp in Ohio or Michigan if he wants...everyone can do it or no one should be able to do it.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:47 am to Phat Phil
Oh, Phil. Stop living vicariously through other programs. Although I'm not sure why you mention Michigan.
As for satellite camps, I think Saban would opt for Dallas, D.C., and Ohio. Those have become key places for out-of-region recruiting. Anything within a 500 mile radius of campus is "home territory".
As for satellite camps, I think Saban would opt for Dallas, D.C., and Ohio. Those have become key places for out-of-region recruiting. Anything within a 500 mile radius of campus is "home territory".
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:53 am to CapstoneGrad06
I don't see why people are so worked up over satellite camps. These camps help FCS programs more than anything else since the big name schools help these no named schools that host these camps to get 300 to 600 local kids to attend and they can evaluate them.
The media buzz is doing Michigan a bigger favor than the actual camps themselves. lol.
The media buzz is doing Michigan a bigger favor than the actual camps themselves. lol.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Big 10 board
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:57 am to BigOrangeBri
quote:we already compete against the other Florida and Sec schools for Fla talent do you really think we care about the B1G? In fact I hope it's the norm cause it'll hurt other Sec schools recruiting Fla more than UF.
by BigOrangeBri
Good. Steal Floridas players
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:41 am to gatorsownfsu81
I don't think you should worry about the B1G but you have to admit that Ohio State has a history or pulling talent out of Florida and it's not going to change anytime soon.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I actually heard an idea yesterday that I liked.
What about an SEC Satellite Camp caravan. It could travel around the best states for recruiting with representatives from each SEC school. How many kids would flock to a camp where 14 different SEC school coaches would have a look at them?
Other conferences would immediately push the NCAA to eliminate satellite camps. Order would be restored.
What about an SEC Satellite Camp caravan. It could travel around the best states for recruiting with representatives from each SEC school. How many kids would flock to a camp where 14 different SEC school coaches would have a look at them?
Other conferences would immediately push the NCAA to eliminate satellite camps. Order would be restored.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:15 am to bengalbait
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He's a devious SOB that will eventually do the same thing to Ohio State.
Possible, but unlikely.
To me, Meyer was still establishing himself and his system at Florida. He did what he had to reach the mountain top, and that involved WAY too many questionable decisions regarding who he would/wouldn't accept into the program. That bit him in the arse
To be a good football coach, which I think everyone on this board would agree Meyer is, you have to learn from mistakes and be able to adapt when someone does something you don't expect. When the UF program 'crashed' (I use that term loosely since they had a top 10 D for the next few years after Meyer left), Meyer had to re-evaluate where he was, and figure out how to fix it in the future.
Since arriving at OSU there have been multiple instances where top national talent has wanted to come to OSU, and the coaching staff has cooled on them. I don't think this is something Meyer did at UF as often.
TLDR: Meyer may have learned from his mistakes at UF about who to have in the program
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:09 am to 14&Counting
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The rules should be the same across the board among the conferences
Like oversigning? Until the SEC stops their practice of oversigning, i have zero problem with these camps. These camps actually level the playing field. I love how everyone bitches about a freaking summer camp, but yet the SEC oversigns every year.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 11:10 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:11 am to Buckeye Backer
As if Meyer doesn't...
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:27 am to Buckeye Backer
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Like oversigning? Until the SEC stops their practice of oversigning, i have zero problem with these camps. These camps actually level the playing field. I love how everyone bitches about a freaking summer camp, but yet the SEC oversigns every year.
Over singing? You mean Meyer hasn't done that in his time at UF and now at OSU. People seem to forget that teams from all P5 schools over sign not just the SEC.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:42 am to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:50 am to Buckeye Backer
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What becomes apparent is that Ohio State signs a lot of players…essentially equal to Alabama. OSU was able to sign the same number of players despite the fact they had nine fewer scholarships to utilize over that time frame (82 vs. 85 for three years), and had hardly any JUCO signees or NFL early entrants to free up more spots compared to most SEC schools. How does this happen? Everyone knows that many teams oversign, but B1G schools are limited to only oversigning by three.
The answer is that Ohio State is processing players with remaining eligibility at a rate higher than most SEC schools, including Alabama. By the time Ohio State trims their current 88 scholarships down to 85, Meyer will have removed over 40 players with remaining eligibility from his roster in just over three years. This type of roster management is often overlooked because under B1G rules, the majority of these roster moves are announced before signing day and soon forgotten.
To give an extreme example, B1G rules still allow a team with no exiting senior class to process 25 juniors on February 1st and sign a full class of 25 while still complying with the conference’s oversigning rule. Oversigning is a misnomer for what is really happening in these cases. By definition, oversigning has a blind spot in that it is only concerned with the timespan from signing day forward. If you want an accurate picture for how many eligible players are actually being processed, you can’t simply start on signing day and look forward. You must look at how many players started the season with at least two years of eligibility remaining, and then determine how many of those players failed to return for the following season.
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