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re: Offseason thread. Why was Florida bad/mediocre until '90
Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:59 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:59 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Yep he is definitely a throwback. One of the true characters of coollege football. People either love him or hate him.
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:00 pm to bigDgator
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Yep he is definitely a throwback. One of the true characters of coollege football. People either love him or hate him.
President Coollege? That does go back some....
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:00 pm to bigDgator
Like him now, hated him in 90's. (A beatdown? Again? Damn!) 
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:01 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Actually they put us back on probation Spurrier's first year and even though we won the SEC, we couldn't claim it or go to the Sugar Bowl.
I can see why LSU fans hated him, man he gave some beatings to you guys. I actually felt sorry for you because I knew a defensive coach on the staff for LSU back then (who coached at UF under Pell).
I can see why LSU fans hated him, man he gave some beatings to you guys. I actually felt sorry for you because I knew a defensive coach on the staff for LSU back then (who coached at UF under Pell).
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:01 pm to John Maplethorpe
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Florida bad/mediocre until '90
Complete myth. Florida was actually a very good program in the early to mid '80s. They were 12th in winning percentage from 1980-1985 which was better than the likes of Clemson, Michigan, FSU, and Alabama. In 1984, the Gators were probably the best team in college football that year. Saying Florida was a bad program before 1990 is like saying Oregon was bad before Chip Kelly. It's completely untrue.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:02 pm to bigDgator
I'm pretty sure 91 was not stripped, isn't that right?
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:02 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Charlie Pell was an amateur cheater compared to Pat Dye.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:03 pm to bigDgator
My first game in Tiger Stadium was Florida vs LSU in 81 or 82. Wayne Peace was the Gator QB and I saw Charlie Pell walking from the team busses to the locker room. UF won the game.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:05 pm to Bench McElroy
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The football team was very good in the 80's...if one overlooks the 19,000 infractions.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:08 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
No, only 84 was stripped. 1990, they announced we couldn't win the SEC during the season when we went on probation. Of course we were looking good to win it, so....Let's just say I think the Good Ole Boy network always seems to try to keep UF down. I think they knew what the potential was by the 1980's. Esp. Uga, UT, Auburn, and Bama.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:09 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Here you go. Rated the 4th most infamous probation in NCAA history by real clear sports (good site BTW).
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Long before Florida became a national football power, there was the Charley Pell scandal. Pell became coach of the Gators in 1979 and saw the team compile an embarrassing 0-10-1 record in his first season. However, he quickly turned things around and made the Gators a contender in the SEC, but the NCAA smelled something fishy.
In 1982 the NCAA launched an investigation into possible rules violations by Pell and his staff. By 1984 it had cited him for an astonishing 107 infractions, including paying for no-show jobs, scalping athletes' tickets, spying on opposing teams, giving free gifts to players, and pretty much anything else you can think of. Pell manned up to the violations and asked to be allowed to resign at the end of the ’84 season, but wasn’t given that chance as he was fired after just three games. The team went on to win the SEC title that year, but the conference university presidents voted to vacate the team's victories because of the violations.
The NCAA soon laid out its own punishment for the school. Florida received two years of probation, was banned from TV appearances and bowl games, and lost 20 scholarships. The football program soon faded to mediocrity during the late ‘80s. However, despite his tarnished reputation, many believe that Pell was the main architect in laying out the groundwork that helped Florida become the powerhouse it is today.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:10 pm to Beer Bryant
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Charlie Pell was an amateur cheater compared to Pat Dye.
Dumbass gump. Just crawl back in your hole and STFU please.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:12 pm to tiger perry
It was 81 or 83. I was at the 83 game.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:12 pm to bigDgator
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No, only 84 was stripped. 1990, they announced we couldn't win the SEC during the season when we went on probation. Of course we were looking good to win it, so....Let's just say I think the Good Ole Boy network always seems to try to keep UF down. I think they knew what the potential was by the 1980's. Esp. Uga, UT, Auburn, and Bama.
Yep, and that potential should keep you winning for the next few decades at least.
I hope a pole shift change your weather for the worse
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:13 pm to Beer Bryant
You could probably call him an amatuer because he got caught and it wrecked his career and his life. I think pretty much everyone was cheating back then, at least a little bit but some more than others.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:16 pm to volforever
Hey with global warming, you never know.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:17 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
By the way, 5 most infamous NCAA cases according to RCS:
1. SMU
2. UK basketball under Rupp in the late 40s, early 50s (point shaving, etc). All of Kentucky athletics got probation for what BB did.
3. Fab 5 - Michigan, Webber and others received over $600k during that time at UM.
4. UF under Pell and his 107 violations that pretty much broke every rule in the NCAA book at the time.
5. Minnesota basketball in 1999 when over 400 academic assignments were completed and turned in by support personnel rather than the players doing any of it.
1. SMU
2. UK basketball under Rupp in the late 40s, early 50s (point shaving, etc). All of Kentucky athletics got probation for what BB did.
3. Fab 5 - Michigan, Webber and others received over $600k during that time at UM.
4. UF under Pell and his 107 violations that pretty much broke every rule in the NCAA book at the time.
5. Minnesota basketball in 1999 when over 400 academic assignments were completed and turned in by support personnel rather than the players doing any of it.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:20 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
UF was desperate for an SEC title back in the 80s. It chapped their asses that they had never won an SEC title.
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:25 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
What the hell...
6. Barry Switzer and OU for all kinds of shite including rapes and shootings by football players while already on probation. Nearly got death penalty. Crippled OU for a decade.
7. Da U (Miami) for all sorts of shite (smoking pot in the coaches office, drinking and partying with coaches and support personnel) and paying players for hits and bounties - all in 1994. Lost 31 scholarships. Crippled the U for a while.
8. USC - Reggie Bush
9. Memphis - Calipari, Derrick Rose in 2008 for illegal benefits and other people taking the SAT for him.
10. UCLA softball - Giving out soccer scholarships to softball players to be able to get extra players and support their dominant program. Sort funny, but sorta totally pissing in the NCAA's face as well.
6. Barry Switzer and OU for all kinds of shite including rapes and shootings by football players while already on probation. Nearly got death penalty. Crippled OU for a decade.
7. Da U (Miami) for all sorts of shite (smoking pot in the coaches office, drinking and partying with coaches and support personnel) and paying players for hits and bounties - all in 1994. Lost 31 scholarships. Crippled the U for a while.
8. USC - Reggie Bush
9. Memphis - Calipari, Derrick Rose in 2008 for illegal benefits and other people taking the SAT for him.
10. UCLA softball - Giving out soccer scholarships to softball players to be able to get extra players and support their dominant program. Sort funny, but sorta totally pissing in the NCAA's face as well.
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 5:28 pm
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