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re: Officiating at the A&M/Arkansas game

Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:23 am to
The first roughing the passer was the only one that was bad. Aside from that, Arky was holding for dear life on almost every play (see the fumble play at the end of regulation). It should have been called more.

Side note, I still laugh when fans state penalty disparity as evidence a game was called unfairly.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:28 am to
So far the commentator and neutral fans have stated how a penalty(s) against Arkansas was BS. The only people I see saying that Arkansas should have been called for holding more are A&M fans.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 8:29 am
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50322 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:29 am to
I noticed about 10 holding calls not called for Garrett alone including the strip sack.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25331 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:31 am to
Your tackles were holding all night.

Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17358 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:35 am to
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You could call holding on about every play on both sides of the ball.


This is always what people say when their teams hold a lot.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16967 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:36 am to
quote:

None. I can think of two you might be complaining about. The first one, when Dan Skipper appeared to move as a result of Hall being in the neutral zone (the commentators talked about it, and were wrong), actually happened because Skipper moved, then Hall went into the neutral zone, then Skipper moved again.


What fricking game were you watching??
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17358 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:36 am to
LSU fans as neutral observers.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17358 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:37 am to
quote:

quote:
None. I can think of two you might be complaining about. The first one, when Dan Skipper appeared to move as a result of Hall being in the neutral zone (the commentators talked about it, and were wrong), actually happened because Skipper moved, then Hall went into the neutral zone, then Skipper moved again.


What fricking game were you watching??


Go back and watch the replay, dickhead. It was as plain as day, they just started the replay too late to catch Skipper's initial movement, and so the commentators missed it. It was absolutely, 100% the right call.

(If you are claiming the A&M player was in the neutral zone on the second "contested" false start, then you're just retarded.)
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:38 am to
Arkansas OL was blatantly holding all night.

I didn't think officiating was really biased one way or the other. Arky just isn't very good.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16967 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:41 am to
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Go back and watch the replay, dickhead. It was as plain as day, they just started the replay too late to catch Skipper's initial movement, and so the commentators missed it. It was absolutely, 100% the right call.

(If you are claiming the A&M player was in the neutral zone on the second "contested" false start, then you're just retarded.)


The Skipper play.
So let me get this straight...The commentators were wrong and everyone else watching the game was wrong because of a late replay.
Got it.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15328 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Were there some iffy calls, yes




Is thst why we lost? No.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17358 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:44 am to
quote:

So let me get this straight...The commentators were wrong and everyone else watching the game was wrong because of a late replay.


Nope. Not everyone watching the game got it wrong. Many of us saw Skipper's initial movement. The commentators did not see Skipper's initial movement. When they replayed it, they started the replay at Hall's movement, and did not replay Skipper's initial movement.

What's so hard about this to understand? Feel free to go back and watch the replay. It's right on the screen, if you'll take the time to look.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16967 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Arkansas OL was blatantly holding all night.


Teams that run the ball a lot will always look like they are holding more because the contact is more physical than passive pass blocking.

Fact
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:45 am to
I'll ask you this way

How many holding calls went against you?

Too many

How many holding calls went against us?

Not enough, y'all were holding all game. Myles Garrett should have had 5 sacks.

How many false starts were the direct result of aTm players jumping in the neutral zone?

None.

How many of those were called against aTm

If there was one, it was one too many.

It definitely made a difference in the outcome

Sure. It kept Arkansas in the game.

That being said, Arkansas had a chance to win that game anyways

Yeah which was bullshite. Y'all suck.
Posted by AWG 12
Member since Feb 2015
47 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:45 am to
Just cause somebody had more penalty yards than the other team does not mean the game was officiated poorly. Is reflection on having undisciplined players. And Myles was held multiple times with no call
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55241 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Teams that cannot stop Garrett, Hall or. Mack will always look like they are holding more because the contact is more than they can handle



Fact
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20361 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:53 am to
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Watch the play again where Myles Garrett forced the fumble of Brandon Allen.


LINK

I'm sure there were plenty of holds that weren't called both ways. This one was out in space so it (or should have been) was more easily seen.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25331 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:53 am to
I don't have a problem with the Holding or pre-snap penalties...These are on the players or on their technique.

My issue is with the penalties like the Block in the Back on the 40 yard score and the Roughing call where our DE was already initiating contact prior to the pass being thrown.

Those were just bad
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:59 am to
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Notice that Kirkland (#55) basically is pulling Garrett's jersey off his shoulder pads.



I've seen more holding on Garrett by Offensive players than any other player in history. Crazy.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16967 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 9:00 am to
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What's so hard about this to understand? Feel free to go back and watch the replay. It's right on the screen, if you'll take the time to look.


I watched the replay.
I don't put much weight into what the commentators say but the rules expert even agreed it was a bad call.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 9:00 am
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