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re: OBC dominated a weak SEC
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:04 pm to bamafan1001
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:04 pm to bamafan1001
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Spurrier was a really good coach but what did he accomplish at USC that Holtz didnt?
Top five finish, 18 straight home wins, divisional championship to name a few.
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:08 pm to bamafan1001
OP is just sad. Spurrier is in elite company in the college football world period. besides the fact that his coaching was legendary but his playing was legendary. is he not the only man that can say he himself played and won a Heisman and then later coached a Heisman winner? while Bryant is the better coach if you can give an overall kinda like a total yards stat for Spurrier's entire contribution to college football I'd rank his importance above Bryant.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:09 pm to AUTiger45
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while Bryant is the better coach
Spurrier's conference championship at Duke might be tops on the list in terms of degree of difficulty.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:12 pm to Wind Rivers Tiger
Lots of personal insults. Would someone like to really like to make the claim that the SEC then was just as good as the SEC now?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:13 pm to bamafan1001
bullshite, he ushered the SEC into the modern age, he beat some really GOOD Alabama teams under Stallings.
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:13 pm to therick711
I could argue that Bryant's at Kentucky was equally as impressive.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:14 pm to bamafan1001
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OBC dominated a weak SEC
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Spurrier basically racked up titles when his biggest coaching competition was Phillip Fulmer.
I guess we could make a similar argument about Bear Bryant in the 70s.
His biggest competition was Cholly Mac and he steamrolled him on the reg.
When Auburn and LSU finally beat Bama, Bear knew it was time to quit.
To give you an idea of how mediocre the SEC was in the 1970s, here are the total appearances in the AP Polls for SEC teams in that decade LINK:
Bama - 91.2%, average rank 5.2
LSU - 56.1%, average rank 11.6, not one win over Bama in decade
Tennessee - 49.3%, average rank 12.5, beat Bama in '70
Auburn - 45.9%, average rank 10.0, beat Bama in '70 and '72
Georgia - 35.1%, average rank 11.3, beat Bama in '76
Florida - 31.8%, average rank 14.3, lost 6 times to Bama in 70s
Ole Miss - 18.9%, average rank 13.8, beat Bama in '70 and '76
LSU was the only team (besides Bama obviously) that was ranked in more than 50% of the AP polls in the 70s. Either the conference was mediocre or totally lacking in respect nationally. Maybe both.
It's actually somewhat amazing that Bear managed to lose to any of those schools more than once. But he never did it 3 times in the decade.
So was the SEC truly that terrible in the 70s or was Bear Bryant that dominating? Maybe a little of both?
OP might want to take off his crimson colored glasses.
The SEC in the 90s was much better than in the 70s.
Here are the poll results for the 90s LINK:
Florida - 98.8%, average rank 6.2
Tennessee - 93.5%, average rank 8.2
Alabama - 76.3%, average rank 11.2
Auburn - 60.4%, average rank 12.5
Georgia - 47.3%, average rank 15.1
Miss State - 29.6%, average rank 19.2
LSU - 27.2%, average rank 14.1
Arkansas - 23.1%, average rank 20.4
Ole Miss - 16.0%, average rank 20.4
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:14 pm to gobama111
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I could argue that Bryant's at Kentucky was equally as impressive.
If you were interested in being objectively proven wrong, you could definitely do that.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:15 pm to Bluefin
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Yes, yes. Let the Spurrier hate flow through you, Bama fan.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:15 pm to bamafan1001
#East Was Down
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:16 pm to therick711
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while Bryant is the better coach
Spurrier's conference championship at Duke might be tops on the list in terms of degree of difficulty.
Who won the last outright football SEC championship at Kentucky?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:16 pm to bamafan1001
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Im sure one could make a similar argument for Bryant's era.
Didn't see this before my post.
I'll give you props for recognizing it on your own.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:19 pm to bamafan1001
Spurrier did a pretty good job against Bama and Stallings in the 90s. Without a doubt a great HC.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:21 pm to BrerTiger
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Im sure one could make a similar argument for Bryant's era.
Didn't see this before my post.
I'll give you props for recognizing it on your own.
Im not hating on OBC. People are acting like I said he was a bad coach when my posts say just the opposite. I was wrong about the Holtz comparison obviously but my over-arching point is that the SEC today is just brutal compared to other eras.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:22 pm to bamafan1001
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Spurrier was a really good coach but what did he accomplish at USC that Holtz didnt?
USC was one of the winningest programs in the nation from 2011-2013. He didn't lose a home game from late 2010 until the 2014 opener.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:23 pm to bamafan1001
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the SEC today is just brutal compared to other eras
You mean the SEC from 2003-2012. Sadly, our decade of dominance has passed.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:25 pm to bamafan1001
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Spurrier was a really good coach but what did he accomplish at USC that Holtz didnt?
Holtz won 9 games one time. Spurrier won 11 games three times. Spurrier's SC finished #4 in 2013.Holtz never top ten. Spurrier also beat good Clemson teams five in a row. Holtz beat them once total. Holtz was no comparison to Spurrier. I guess if you go strickly on championships won, then they are even. But, SC isn't in that position anyway.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:27 pm to bamafan1001
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my over-arching point is that the SEC today is just brutal compared to other eras.
Then why is your OP titled "OBC dominated a weak SEC" instead of "SEC is tougher today than it's ever been"?
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:30 pm to bamafan1001
But yea the SEC was truly bad from the late 80s until the early 2000s.
I mean just take LSU 1988 for example. That team won the conference, but got absolutely destroyed by Miami to the tune of 44-3. And Miami didn't even win the title that year.
As another example, Florida won the conference six times in five years. Most of those years they went on to lose their bowl game, despite dominating their conference.
There were exceptions, of course, including 1992 Alabama, 1996 Florida, and 1998 Tennessee.
I'd include 1993 Auburn but they were never tested in the postseason and didn't play any major OOC teams, so its impossible to tell how they stacked up. My sense is they would not have beaten Charlie Heisman and FSU.
I mean just take LSU 1988 for example. That team won the conference, but got absolutely destroyed by Miami to the tune of 44-3. And Miami didn't even win the title that year.
As another example, Florida won the conference six times in five years. Most of those years they went on to lose their bowl game, despite dominating their conference.
There were exceptions, of course, including 1992 Alabama, 1996 Florida, and 1998 Tennessee.
I'd include 1993 Auburn but they were never tested in the postseason and didn't play any major OOC teams, so its impossible to tell how they stacked up. My sense is they would not have beaten Charlie Heisman and FSU.
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:34 pm to bamafan1001
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Im not hating on OBC. People are acting like I said he was a bad coach when my posts say just the opposite. I was wrong about the Holtz comparison obviously but my over-arching point is that the SEC today is just brutal compared to other eras.
He won 6 SEC championships in 12 years that's about 50% of the time.
If you take out Auburn's 2 runs it's about the same. Ole Miss and Mississippi State are new to Success
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