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re: Now that VH3 is gone, I think Tre'davious White is the top SEC corner.

Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:42 am to
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:42 am to
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o a lot of solid players and one straight up baller, basically


The best CB's since Peterson are sophomores and Freshmen. Give them some time, my friend

Kevin Tolliver looks to be the next great shutdown CB. Physical to boot.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:06 am to
1.Humphrey Bama
2.Tabor Florida
3.Davis. Auburn

These are the top 3.

Fitzpatrick is a beast slot corner, but struggles on the outside especially playing the deep ball.

Tre'Davious is top 5, but is a step behind the top 3.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15528 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:08 am to
White is the truth. I wouldn't throw near this guy unless I had to.

I expect him to be an elite NFL corner day one when he gets there.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:14 am to
White is experienced and and has great ball skills. He doesn't have the make up speed you like to see from elite corners and he is kind of soft as well against the run. He is not as good as Tabor, Hump, or Carlton Davis.

He is fringe top 5. The top 3 are clear cut IMO.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:21 am to
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has great ball skills

He doesn't have the make up speed you like to see from elite corners


Incorrect.

See the scouting report on the last page for proof. His ball skills are mediocre, but his coverage is absolutely elite.

The only thing you're correct about is his play against the run.
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 10:23 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:24 am to
Quincy Wilson is the most underrated CB in the SEC because he's UFs "other" CB.
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5555 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:26 am to
Humphrey might be the best player in the league.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:35 am to
He plays the ball well in the air every time I have seen him play. I could see someone saying his ball skills are suspect because of his lack of interceptions. He seems to locate the ball well when I see him and he obviously knows what to do with it based in his return ability.

He just doesn't seem physical enough to consistently play bump and run. He also doesn't have the make up speed to recover if the WR gets a good release off the line. His tackling could be better. He is still a great CB though despite his short comings.

If he gets with the right team and they implement the the right scheme he can have some success.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:37 am to
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texag7


Go back to the Big 12 where you're relevant
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:49 am to
Marlon Humphrey and it's not even close.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:50 am to
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He just doesn't seem physical enough to consistently play bump and run.


He doesn't play a whole lot of bump and run, but when he does it's just fine. He doesn't get a good jam but he stays right on the hip of the receiver most of the time.


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He also doesn't have the make up speed to recover if the WR gets a good release off the line.


Patently false. Also, he rarely, if ever, lets WRs get more than a step on him. Again, his strongest attribute is his ability to stay on the hip of WRs. He's done it with everyone he's covered, including Amari Cooper who's one of the best route runners I've ever seen as a college WR.


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His tackling could be better.


Correct


quote:

He is still a great CB though despite his short comings.

If he gets with the right team and they implement the the right scheme he can have some success.


Agree on both.

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:55 am to
We aren't counting Mathieu?
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:55 am to
I like Hump too, but if you watch Tabor you can see why someone might take him 1st. He is physical. He beats the shite out of WR off the line and he is aggressive and just mean. I think Hump has better hips and transitions into phase better.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:56 am to
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Marlon Humphrey and it's not even close.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261513 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:03 am to
Teams don't throw much in whites direction. Hes on another level this year.
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:26 am to
White has great short area quickness. He gets beat over top though. In the scouting report you mentioned it says he gives up 18 yards a completion. Maybe it's just the one of the Texas Tech WR leaving a smoke trail for the TD that I can't get past.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:35 am to
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White has great short area quickness. He gets beat over top though. In the scouting report you mentioned it says he gives up 18 yards a completion.


It also says he has one of the lowest burn rates in the country.


quote:

Maybe it's just the one of the Texas Tech WR leaving a smoke trail for the TD that I can't get past.


Probably
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 11:36 am
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38240 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:41 am to
I see a lot of posts in this thread questioning White's top end speed, physicality, lack of interceptions, etc and I can tell that none of you have watched him play for extended periods of time.

There's a reason why White is my avatar on here, and it's not because I know him or like to troll Florida fans with his image. He's just that damn good and I wish he got more recognition.

I've seen White shut down almost every wide receiver he's gone against since he's been in this league. The only time I've really since him get beaten one-on-one was when Speedy Noil out jumped him in 2014. One of the main reasons LSU's defense was so salty in 2014 was White. I watched him shut down Amari Cooper, Treadwell, and other top wideouts that year and his leadership and ability got him the #18 jersey as a junior last year.

Speaking of last year, White played injured and still managed to completely shut down whoever went against him. It's gotten to the point where teams don't even throw to his side of the field and with Jackson and Toliver on the outside in nickel packages, he feasts on slotmen.

I think the list goes:

1. White
2. Tabor
3. Davis/Humphrey
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:04 pm to
It's all opinions from anonymous message board posters. There are some good CBS in the SEC. The season is still young.

So far Hump seems to be having the best season after two games. Mostly because he has had the most opportunities going up against Ju-Ju from USC. He has some huge tackles and a pick 6 to go along with blanket coverage.

He'll have a chance to separate himself Saturday vs Ole Miss.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75881 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:05 pm to
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Teams don't throw much in whites direction. Hes on another level this year.


Well when pass happy offenses like Wisconsin and Jacksonville State aren't throwing your way, you know you've hit the big time.
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