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re: Nick Saban defends second chances.

Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Did he say anything about helping the other players that were involved in that incident?



You mean the ones who actually assaulted the students? Yeah...there's nothing much he could do for them. They took an active role in beating up the students and used one of their ACT cards to buy stuff out of the vending machines. Those are felonies. Pettway did not participate. He was present but did not participate. That's the only reason why he was afforded a second chance by the administration.

As for the guy saying how it's convenient how Saban gives second chances to good football players. The other players involved were a 5-star ATH (Eddie Williams), a 4-star ATH (Brent Calloway), and a 4-star LB (Tyler Hayes). They were never invited back.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:32 pm to
Eddie went back to PCB and knocked up his old high school teacher.
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Pettway did not participate. He was present but did not participate. That's the only reason why he was afforded a second chance by the administration.


Sure he didn't.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:53 pm to
He told the other guys that he didn't think it was a good idea, and sat in the car. He knew his destiny was to win championships with Alabama.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:17 pm to
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It is amazing how all the guys he feels so strongly about giving second chances to just happen to be really good football players. The recruiting misses can be model citizens and great students at Bama, but Nick Saban doesn't seem to care that they will be walking across a stage at North Alabama or some other lesser school. Also, if he is so into second chances why does he so very rarely offer unlimited releases to his transfers?
Two of the other three kids that were involved with Pettway were 5* athletes and the other was a helluva player who was already seeing the field. Several were already in his doghouse and working on "another chance"
......and show me any coach in the major conferences who goes around handing out unlimited releases.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by spslayto
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:23 pm to
Haven't we known this since November 2011?
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:26 pm to
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......and show me any coach in the major conferences who goes around handing out unlimited releases.


Mark Richt hasn't once limited an ex-player's options when given release.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Sure he didn't.



So why allow Pettway back on the team while keeping the other heralded athletes as far away from the program as possible?
Posted by Andre
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:29 pm to
the peoples corch
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:33 pm to
The man
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:33 pm to
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So why allow Pettway back on the team while keeping the other heralded athletes as far away from the program as possible?


I can't speak for the other players, but the kid from PCB was one of the most overrated players in the history of player rankings. That kid wasn't even the best player on his own team. IIRC, he was rated as one of the top 15 players in the nation.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:39 pm to
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I can't speak for the other players, but the kid from PCB was one of the most overrated players in the history of player rankings. That kid wasn't even the best player on his own team. IIRC, he was rated as one of the top 15 players in the nation.
So that's your stupid-arse reply to the question?...your stupid-arse opinion of a consensus 5* player?...get the frick out of here, fool.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:41 pm to
I saw the kid play, in HS, more times than you have fingers and toes. It wasn't my opinion. It was fact.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:43 pm to
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It wasn't my opinion. It was fact.


I don't think you know what 'fact' means.

You may well be right, but don't pretend as if it is indisputable.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:46 pm to
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but don't pretend as if it is indisputable.


Again, he wasn't the best player on his HS team. He got a big bump when bama started recruiting him. I read a Clemson coach one time say that star ranking were overrated. He said he could make a 3* a 5* and a 5* a 3* by what he told these recruiting services. I chuckled at that..........until I saw it with my own eyes.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:47 pm to
Why did the Bama staff pursue him, then? Misevaluation?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:49 pm to
It wouldn't be the first time. saban wouldn't need to over sign every year if he was hitting the nail on the head every time.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:49 pm to
Yeah, that's why he was offered by Florida, Florida St., Bama, Texas, UCLA, Georgia, Notre Dame, etc. Because he was over-rated.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:51 pm to
Jake Holland was a 4* cruit. I rest my case.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64979 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:52 pm to
He was being recruited by Alabama, Texas, Florida, Florida State, Georgia and Notre Dame. A who's who of college teams. He was a 5-star athlete all the way across the board (Rivals, 247 Sports, Scout and ESPN). And yet to you, a simple fan, he was overrated? Yeah. Pardon me if I don't trust you.


This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 1:53 pm
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