re: NCAA had no choice

Okay, now is when you fall into the delusional aubbie category.

Just to remind you - from Cecil and Cam's own mouths, before this whole thing broke-

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Newton let his father make the final decision, and a few days before Christmas, while sitting at the dinner table in his brother's house in Jacksonville, Cecil Sr. uttered two words that would radically alter the college football landscape: "It's Auburn."

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Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

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Did you ever have a pet mysteriously "run away to the farm" but in actuality your parents killed it?

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I've heard of this happening but not to anyone over the age of 10.

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Just to remind you - from Cecil and Cam's own mouths, before this whole thing broke-

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But this mentions nothing of Cam knowing about the money stuff. Just that Cecil told his son to go to AU. How does that directly mean "Cam knew about everything?".

Also, I had this pointed out too me and it has a lot of correlation to what is going on.


Here is the full text of the NCAA's statement ...

The NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff has reinstated the eligibility of University of Alabama football student-athletes Julio Jones and Mark Ingram based on a condition of repayment.

According to the facts of the case submitted by Alabama, the student-athletes received impermissible food, lodging, transportation and entertainment from an individual with whom one of the student-athletes had become acquainted prior to enrolling in college.

Consistent with NCAA membership requirements, the institution reported the violation and declared the student-athletes ineligible. As part of the reinstatement request, the institution required the student-athletes to make repayment of the value of the impermissible benefits to charity.

During the reinstatement process, the NCAA staff considers a number of factors including guidelines established by the NCAA Division I Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, relevant case precedent, the student-athlete's responsibility for the violation, as well as any mitigating factors presented by the institution.


The fishing case had a very similar ruling as this one, but Juio and ingram had to repay the benefits they received. In Cam's case, no benefits were received, so he didn't have to repay anything before being reinstated. Just found it interesting.

Chick - I get it. I understand what you're saying, but you aren't getting what I'm saying. The NCAA can't make that distinction unless they have proof.

Didn't he want to go play at MSU for his old Fla. coach? What did he think when his dad told him he could not play there and he had to play at AU?

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Chick - You are exactly right. You made my point for me. Cecil's dad was punished. Rogers was punished. Cam is the one we're talking about here. No way HE could be punished if he "didn't know" about what his dad did.

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None of this shite matters. The NCAA has dropped the hammer on people already with the player "not knowing." See Reggie, Stoudamire, etc. What they're pulling with Cam is so fricking shameful it isn't funny. They just should have kept their mouth shut until it was ACTUALLY over.

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BamaChick - IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S HIS DAD!!!! That's the whole point. Do you understand how many high school senior stud football players come from families WITHOUT DADS. GUESS WHAT, high school coaches, brothers, cousins, uncles, foster parents, grandparents, and nice friendly neighbors RAISE THESE KIDS. THEY SERVE AS PARENTS!!!!!!

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You are wrong. It does matter that it was his dad. It has always been that the parent IS the child in recruiting.

AU will skate for now, but ESPN isn't going to let this die, and neither will any reasonable coach in the country. Joe Schad knows AU paid Cam.

The only problem is that who wants to touch a scandal where money was laundered through a Black Church in the Deep South? Who really wants Jesse Jackson pull the race card?

The Alabama situation with Ingram and Julio involved Alabama ruling them ineligible and the NCAA reinstating them after a two game suspension. In other words, they had to be ruled ineligible and reinstated by the NCAA prior to playing again. True, it was determined that the players received a benefit and that's not the case with Cam Newton, BUT Auburn never went through the reinstatement process until Nov 30, 2010 which was nearly a year after they were aware of eligibility issues with Cam Newton. Regardless of what Cam knew or didn't know and whether actual illegal benefits were received, that is a failure to follow NCAA protocol and that alone should be an NCAA penalty. Forget that there was no payment and this involved MSU and not Auburn, Cam Newton was damaged goods at that point and a solicitation violation had occurred which the NCAA just stated. Auburn failed to properly reinstate Newton prior to the 2010 football season. They waited after the regular season to declare him ineligible despite the issue being crystal clear well before the start of the season.

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Like I said. I personally think Cecil is a scumbag. I also think Cam knew. I do not think Auburn paid him, but without proof that Cam knew, the punishment fit the crime - Rogers and Daddy Newton got punished.

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If you think Cam knew then Cam should be declared ineligible. Period.

The fact that you are fine with Cam skating just because there is no "proof" RIGHT NOW shows that you have a win it all costs attitude and damn the reasons and consequences.

That's fine and dandy but own it then and don't wrap it up in "family" bullshite and pretend that it's about a "Pandora's Box".

It's about that trophy in NYC and the elusive one in Glendale. Don't pretend othwerwise.