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re: Myles Garrett is having a dominant year.

Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:12 pm to
And because myles wasn't really good against the run as a freshman, it means he isn't this year even though he has been a force against the run this year
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:21 pm to
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except we aren't the only people who think this



He has 11 tackles, 3 sacks, 0 FF in 4 games and there's an article about a heisman campaign. A little over the top. It's great and all he generates pressure, but talking about a heisman campaign 1/3 of the way through a season for a DE with 11 tackles, 3 sacks and no forced turnovers is a tad overboard.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:22 pm to
His numbers don't tell the full story. Every offense we've played has set up their entire scheme around avoiding Garrett.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:24 pm to
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His numbers don't tell the full story. Every offense we've played has set up their entire scheme around avoiding Garrett.


Teams scheme to stop, control or neutralize others teams' best players, this isn't a completely unique thing to Garrett.

You think teams arent doing this to Barnett or Key either? You think they have QBs each game against them saying "Hey you'll have all day to throw, we'll even roll you out to their side to throw the football"
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:24 pm to
Boy, nothing sparks up agsession more than a good ole' Myles Garrett thread.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:24 pm to
Ok? Just because it's ridiculous to discuss him as a heisman, which it is 100%, that doesnt mean he isn't the best defensive player in the SEC and will probably be the first SEC player drafted
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:26 pm to
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Ok? Just because it's ridiculous to discuss him as a heisman, which it is 100%, that doesnt mean he isn't the best defensive player in the SEC and will probably be the first SEC player drafted



Still a stretch to say he's the best given the production. Again, "pressures" are great, but it isn't finishing plays. And FYI, Key has generated the same number of pressures as Garrett has this year, except also has twice as many sacks and 3 FF.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:30 pm to
Just because his numbers are lacking doesn't mean he isn't causing the other teams offense to make crucial mistakes. That's all I'm saying. Numbers aren't everything.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:31 pm to
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Still a stretch to say he's the best
once again, you two fanbases are the only two group of people who feel this way. Everyone from scouts, to advanced metric people think myles garrett is the best defensive player
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:32 pm to
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Numbers aren't everything.


Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:33 pm to
Right on time
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:34 pm to
Key is a pass rush specialist who won't be able to play with his hand in the dirt at the next level. He's like 235 lbs. Garrett is 6 5 260 and not a limited situational player. But keep being delusional
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:36 pm to
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Key is a pass rush specialist who won't be able to play with his hand in the dirt at the next level. He's like 235 lbs. Garrett is 6 5 260 and not a limited situational player. But keep being delusional



Who said anything about the next level?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:37 pm to
He is a situational player. That's fine, he's good at it, but an every down player like Garrett is the more valuable one every time and the people who evaluate players for a living agree
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:37 pm to
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Just because his numbers are lacking doesn't mean he isn't causing the other teams offense to make crucial mistakes. That's all I'm saying. Numbers aren't everything.



Numbers tell a lot about a player. He has solid numbers, but talking up a heisman campaign about a guy who has 11 tackles, 6 Pressures, 3 sacks 0 turnovers is pretty ridiculous. It's not even close to best in his own conference. Again, a DE/OLB in his conference has 21 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 6 Pressures, and 3 FF. Those are substantially better.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Key is a pass rush specialist who won't be able to play with his hand in the dirt at the next level. He's like 235 lbs. Garrett is 6 5 260 and not a limited situational player. But keep being delusional


Key is 6'6" and has the frame to add more weight over time for the league.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:39 pm to
He has one offseason left unless he's a 4 year player
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:40 pm to
He's an incredible player. Give me Barnett though.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:41 pm to
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Key is a pass rush specialist who won't be able to play with his hand in the dirt at the next level. He's like 235 lbs. Garrett is 6 5 260 and not a limited situational player. But keep being delusional


Key is 6'6 and no one ever gains weight at the next level. You talk about delusional

Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:43 pm to
Sounds like a developmental prospect
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