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re: My Ole Miss trip this weekend

Posted on 3/26/12 at 6:58 am to
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 6:58 am to
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honors colleges are a waste of time/effort
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 6:58 am to
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you'll learn that honors colleges are a waste of time/effort



Not if you're looking to get into better graduate or law schools. Also, honors college scholarships are FAT.

Trust me on this. They have their utility.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 7:01 am to
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Yeah but everybody does not get in honors, which is my point after yall tried to insult me. I understand what yall are saying, trust me I have been told this same thing over and over. The whole thing just appeals to me though.



Tighten up your writing champ. You're making the SMBHC look bad. (Unless you're going to do engineering or something where writing ain't all that important, that is.)
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 7:02 am to
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Employers don't give 2 shits if they see honors on your resumé.


Again, graduate schools, medical schools, law schools, etc.

Yeah, if you're looking to get a job straight out of undergraduate, then it doesn't matter, but a good portion of honors college grads don't do that. A lot of them continue their education.
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 9:00 am to
My dad went to Bama and I grew up really under the Shula era but once I got to Oxford I quickly gained a hatred for Ssban. You may or may not have that experience and yea I'm Jelly.
Posted by RebFeBrees
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 9:06 am to
Glad you had a good time and didnt get a free night stay @ LCDC.

Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 9:30 am to
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you'll learn that honors colleges are a waste of time/effort


This times a million.

If you're trying to get one of the top national jobs at whatever you're trying to do, most of them look down on southern public schools and having "Honors College" on your resume doesn't change their thoughts at all. You either need a connection or kill the interview. I had 6 interviews for my job, with my final being a 7 hour crucible. Nowhere in those interviews did I think "You know, I really wish I had Honors College on my resume, then I would be able to explain prepayment risk mitigation of PAC CMO's".
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 9:46 am to
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If you're trying to get one of the top national jobs at whatever you're trying to do, most of them look down on southern public schools and having "Honors College" on your resume doesn't change their thoughts at all


Again, and this will be the last time I say this, having the honors college and it's thesis on your resume is HUGE for continuing your education.

I will totally agree that for job prospects, it's not all that huge, but if you're looking to go to a prestigious graduate, law, or medical school, it makes a huge difference. Trust me. Just off of the top of my head, I can think of Ole Miss honors college grads I know who are pursuing or have earned MAs, JDs, PhDs, or MDs from places like UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, Georgetown, MIT, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Harvard, etc.

Again, that's just off of the top of my head. I'm sure there are plenty others. The fact is, if you're trying to submit a competitive resume to a graduate, law, or medical school, a hefty research project (such as the Ole Miss honors thesis) makes a significant difference. The honors college also gives you access to better professors who can write good letters of recommendation and allows for extracurriculars that look good on an application.

Could a non-honors student from Ole Miss or any of the other SEC schools apply and get accepted into a prestigious graduate school? Of course, but the things the honors colleges provide their students with give them a real competitive advantage.

To the OP, if you just wanna go to physical therapy school at UMC (didn't you say something like that earlier?), then the honors college would be perhaps a waste of time. If you wanna do something a bit more ambitious, though, then the honors college can really help you out.
Posted by Will20
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 1:36 pm to
I am on a message board




What grad schools would it look good for besides law and medical? Also, were you in the SMBHC?
Posted by Will20
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 1:39 pm to
Yeah LSU kind of disappointed me with the lack of schollies for out of staters
Posted by Will20
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 1:47 pm to
Some complications have happened with my family that are going to make paying for college difficult. So why go to some very expensive private college when I can get a decent education at the Ole Miss honors college? Will it be equal? No. Will it be the best for what I can afford? I believe so. I am sorry if I do not live up to some random message board poster's expectations.
Posted by MontanaMax
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:03 pm to
The Honor's College is not a waste of time, especially with the competition of getting into certain graduate programs. That junk looks good on a resume.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:14 pm to
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What grad schools would it look good for besides law and medical? Also, were you in the SMBHC?


Yes I was in the SMBHC, so I'm naturally biased. However, I've seen how the college prepares students for good graduate schools.

And really it could look good for any graduate school depending on your undergraduate major. One thing that schools look for besides academic achievement are well-roundedness and a "dedication" to the field. The thesis really does help demonstrate more than simple academic achievement, in that it demonstrates an ability to research, write, work with academic faculty (you have to work with three separate faculty members to write the thesis), and commit yourself to a particular topic of study.

Aside from law and medicine, I know people getting masters or doctorates in things like finance, chemistry, and economics, and they're doing it at schools like Georgia Tech, MIT, and Johns Hopkins. I'm not just pulling this out of my arse, in that I could actually name the people I'm thinking of specifically.

It all depends on what you want to do. I can totally see how, for some people, the honors college would be a waste of time. For others, though, it has helped them achieve some very ambitious goals.
Posted by lsu711
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 3:43 pm to
Those people got into good post-graduate schools for the same reasons they got into the Honors College - not because they graduated from the Honors College.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 4:34 pm to
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Those people got into good post-graduate schools for the same reasons they got into the Honors College - not because they graduated from the Honors College.


I get what DC is saying and he has a point but this is also true. If you're really intelligent, do well in your college field, and have a lot of extra cirriculars you can still get into prestigious graduate programs without being in an Honor's College. A student lab assistant who taught my Micro Economics lab when I was at Alabama got accepted into the Harvard MBA program. She wasn't in the Honors College but was president of her sorrority (Alpha Chi Omega)and extremely intelligent and had no telling how many other academic things on her application. She also happened to be smoking hot too so she definitely had the entire package.
This post was edited on 3/26/12 at 4:35 pm
Posted by lsu711
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 5:20 pm to
There are Ivy quality students who choose to go to southern public schools. Graduate programs and employers recognize this, but it takes a lot of effort to overcome an underwhelming undergraduate degree. I'm at a "top 5" MBA program and though there aren't many (12 out of ~550), several of the SEC schools are represented: 7 from Vandy, 2 from Auburn, and 1 each from Bama, Florida and LSU. That said, I'm even surprised to see that not 1 of them mentions an undergrad Honors College on their resume.
Posted by POCKET
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 5:45 pm to
good to have you. As far as honors college goes... some of my friends stuck it out and some didn't. You are making the right decision to start off in it and then you can make up your own mind
Posted by Will20
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 8:57 pm to
I didnt mean for this to turn into an honors college bitchfest. Just wanted to brag to the board that I had a badass weekend in Oxford
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 9:07 pm to
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Just wanted to brag to the board that I had a badass weekend in Oxford

Well this is the type of thread you deserve for your intentions.
Posted by RebFeBrees
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 9:41 pm to
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