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re: My assessment for the Florida-LSU top 10 matchup

Posted on 10/14/15 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 1:58 pm to
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I've said multiple times that it doesn't get much better than Tiger Stadium in a big game at night. I just said that Treon won't be intimidated by the stadium and the moment won't be too big for him. But of course, like most LSU fans you take what I said out of context and make it into a pissing contest about how y'all are the greatest and the opponent sucks. I'm sure it will be a fun environment and Florida will show up and manage to be out there at the kick off.


Good to know that you know Treon that well. I mean there's no chance that 102,000 drunk loud fans could intimidate a college kid....or fluster him in any way. Go watch the press conference from after the game last year from Bo Wallace when he looked as if he had been bouncing around in a cement truck for 3 hours.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:01 pm to
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So they're better because they're used more?


Well, yeah.

If a guy gives his team 6 catches for 50 yards and a touchdown and another guy gets 2 catches for 12 yards and no touchdowns, who is better?

Talent doesn't matter, production does. Florida's wide receivers produce more than LSU's. It's not that hard of a concept I wouldn't think.

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If LSU's receivers are more efficient when they're called on and they take attention away from the run game then does it matter?



It doesn't matter. LSU wants to run the ball. The want to hand the ball to Fournette 30 times and say "win this ball game for us"

If LSU receivers make 10 catches in 23 attempts for 80 yards on Saturday night and Florida receivers make 18 catches on 30 attempts for 175 yards and a touchdown, who was more productive?

The whole point is, Florida uses their wide receivers more and they are more productive for Florida, therefore Florida has the advantage. I don't see how this is debatable
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:03 pm to
You sound mad. Are you mad?

Treon will be fine. There's going to be mistakes, but the moment won't be too big for him. You're acting like playing in Death Valley is some impossible task that no one has ever done successfully before. Newsflash: Eastern Michigan was in a one possession game against LSU in the fourth quarter. LSU is a beatable team. You'll see that over the course of the season.
Posted by TheCosbySweater
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
1743 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:05 pm to
Good assessment besides the QB's being even. Yall really may have the worst QB in the entire south
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:10 pm to
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Talent doesn't matter, production does. Florida's wide receivers produce more than LSU's. It's not that hard of a concept I wouldn't think.


First of all you lost me with the stats....second of all by your logic Navy's running backs (which are near the top in the country in yards) are better than most and would have the edge over say Florida's? Just because they use them doesn't mean they're better....and just because LSU's receivers haven't been used as much as Florida's doesn't mean they're not as good. LF's greatness doesn't take away from the receivers abilities or the quarterback. And FYI Florida's receivers just got alot worse with Treon in the game than meathead.
Posted by SharpDressedMan
Member since Jun 2015
256 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:13 pm to
IMO we'll stop the LSU running game much like USC did in the first half. Harris isn't going to hang 200 yards on us though. Our DBs will Allie the rest of our D to stop the run
Posted by austingator
austin
Member since Jan 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:14 pm to
Our WRs have played better than LSU, I don't even know how you can debate this. All I hear is how LSU's WRs are dropping balls.

I guess you have a crystal ball, and you know they will catch stuff this saturday, better than UF?
Posted by SharpDressedMan
Member since Jun 2015
256 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:23 pm to
I've watched two LSU games this year. Their passing game is awful
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62885 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:42 pm to
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I've watched two LSU games this year. Their passing game is awful


Which ones? I assume you'll say the two worst ones for our passing, which wouldn't make much sense based on the opponent.

It looked fine in the most recent game, which carries a little more weight on the state of the passing game than the others.
Posted by SharpDressedMan
Member since Jun 2015
256 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:49 pm to
You've had one good passing game and your qb still made a few terrible decisions. The overall body of work is awful though. One good game doesn't mean you've suddenly turned it around
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
62885 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:58 pm to
He's actually had one bad game, one good game, and one game where he just did what was asked and didn't mess up.

Show me a game where a QB doesn't make a bad throw. He has had no picks, which means his worst throws are better than your QB's worst throws.

You confuse horrible with underutilized. Even with the drop game against EMU, he's just under 60% with 4 passing, 3 rushing TDs, no picks, and a lot of evidence that he makes good decisions. His runs are extremely effective and timely.

The passing game is much better this year than last, and it is improving. It's not scary, but it's efficient and effective.
Posted by SharpDressedMan
Member since Jun 2015
256 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:11 pm to
So he's played 3 games? Cool
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62885 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:16 pm to
One good, one bad, three efficient. 1000 pardons for that extremely confusing typo.

You seem to have a slight insecure aggressiveness to your tone.
Posted by SharpDressedMan
Member since Jun 2015
256 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:19 pm to
Fight me
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62885 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:24 pm to
Meet me by Mike's cage on Saturday. Either at 4 or 11, depending on if you want your beating before your team takes one or after.
Posted by fan251
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2011
857 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 4:14 pm to
Honestly, there are no advantages/disadvantages in this game!!!

These 2 teams couldn't be more evenly matched! The team that can run the ball most effectively and make the least mistakes will win.

If either of these D-Coordinators are worth a shite, they would crowd the line of scrimmage and force the QBs to win the game......PERIOD!!!

No complicated schemes, no exotic BS....just put the game into the QBs hands and I guarantee you, one will show up and one will not!!!!

Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 4:27 pm to
Nice job, 8. In a battle of top ten teams, things normally come down to breaks. However, Fournette is a generational talent in my view and his play can overcome an opponents advantage in breaks, just as he did last year in the Swamp. He's been rushing against 8, 9 & 10 man boxes all season, folks. No amount of scheming is going to stop this kind of rushing attack. However, a great, athletic defense that gives maximum effort can slow down even the best of players and teams. UF is capable of doing it. Just don't think the Tigers will let that happen this go-round.
Posted by fan251
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2011
857 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 4:28 pm to
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Well, yeah.

If a guy gives his team 6 catches for 50 yards and a touchdown and another guy gets 2 catches for 12 yards and no touchdowns, who is better?


The dumbest argument I've ever seen!!!

Larry Fitzgerald's numbers are nothing compared to some lower tier receivers in the NFL because he hasn't been targeted as much as they have........but, based on your argument you would say those receivers are better than Fitz!!!

REALLY? That's your argument of who's better?



Not comparing LSU receivers to Fitz at all....!!! But to say UF's receivers are better because they have more catches is quite ridiculous!!!

Amari Cooper wasn't even one of the top receivers statistically last year by numbers standards (catches & yards); but he was CLEARLY the best receiver in college football and it wasn't even close!!!

Treadwell is another badass receiver in college football; but statistically his numbers aren't great; but he'd be my first pick for receiver over any other receiver, regardless of their stats!

Your game plan includes way more of a passing attack than LSU; so it's a given that your receivers would have more "stats"..........that doesn't make them better!!!
Posted by TNTiger1984
Cuba
Member since Jan 2015
157 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:12 pm to
Hell with offensive/defensive stats.

I think penalties and time of possession will be crucial. If LSU offense gets penalized heavily and places us in 3rd and long FLA will succeed in stopping LF and our offense. If its a clean FB game, LSUs offense will roll. FLA front four are stout but never did a team rush as much against them as Les Miles will do Saturday night. Depth of FLA DL will be pressured and be put in a situation they haven't been in all year.

If its a clean FB game, TOP will definitely be a factor. IDK, but i suspect FLA defense hasn't played as many minutes in the game as I expect them to play. Neither has LSUs defense this year. Whoever wins TOP will win the game. MY PREDICTION ONLY!! OL in the 2nd half always has an advantage to the DL. Defenses time on the field will be critical.

I expect a great game

My prediction is LSU 34-24..... both defenses will give up points but the continual rush attack Les Miles prefer will overwehlm defenses no matter how good the defense.
Posted by TNTiger1984
Cuba
Member since Jan 2015
157 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:26 pm to
Aren't WRs used to block as well? Doesn't that count for something. WRs love there receiving yards but blocking is just as important. Give me WR that is willing to block and catch over a glorified SHOWboat WR...... LSU WRs dominate FLA WRs
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