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re: Missouri is a really solid football team
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:25 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:25 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Alabama > Georgia
TBD
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:26 am to DawgsLife
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They're garbage tbh
One must respect this. Because if there is one thing a KU football fan knows, it's garbage football.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:26 am to meansonny
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They ran the ball effectively. But they should have with the numbers advantage. Victory is determined by points, though. And the game was never in question.
My opinion may be colored by my frustration with the game. Plus, I was in north Georgia looking at land to buy, and could not get away to watch the game, so I only caught pieces of the game. But, from what I have seen, I really do think Missouri is a pretty good team. Their defense still needs a lot of work, but they have a solid team. Last year they were looking a bit dumpster fireish....and I thought the surge at the end was more due to the schedule than improvement. now, I think they really were improving.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:27 am to meansonny
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TBD
Well, ok, but as of right now I think you'd pretty clearly go 11-0 team > 10-1 team with loss to team that 11-0 team beat 30-0 in the same stadium.
We can update if things change I guess.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:29 am to Drydock
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They're garbage tbh
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One must respect this. Because if there is one thing a KU football fan knows, it's garbage football.
He's not a Kansas fan. he is a South Carolina fan who happens to live in Kansas.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:29 am to DawgsLife
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Last year they were looking a bit dumpster fireish....and I thought the surge at the end was more due to the schedule than improvement. now, I think they really were improving.
Again, the optics were that the Tigers were improving last season. And it turned out to be the easy schedule.
I haven't seen the improvement this season. But I may be proven wrong in the bowl game. My guess is that the schedule is soft.
We will have to wait about a month to find out
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:32 am to meansonny
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I haven't seen the improvement this season. But I may be proven wrong in the bowl game. My guess is that the schedule is soft.
We will have to wait about a month to find out
They played us relatively tough for 4 quarters. They lost to a Top 15 Kentucky on the last play of the game. They whiplashed a Top 15 Florida team.
Last year they finished the year beating 4-8 Idaho, 3-9 UConn, 4-7 Florida, 4-8 Tennessee and 5-7 Vanderbilt.
This year they lost to us semi-respectably, hammered Memphis, lost on the last play of the game to #17 Kentucky and hammered #13 Florida.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:33 am to meansonny
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Again, the optics were that the Tigers were improving last season. And it turned out to be the easy schedule.
Which is what i thought originally. But, you honestly don't see an improvement in this team over last seasons?
quote:I guess not. Let's just say this...this year they beat a Purdue team that blew them out last year. Barely lost to a pretty good UK team. Beat a good Florida team. I just don't see last years team as being capable of doing those things.
I haven't seen the improvement this season.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:34 am to SummerOfGeorge
Okay. You beat me to it! 
Looks like we are on the same page, though. I see a huge improvement in this team over last years.
Looks like we are on the same page, though. I see a huge improvement in this team over last years.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:35 am to DawgsLife
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Looks like we are on the same page, though. I see a huge improvement in this team over last years.
Yea, I mean I don't think they are national title contenders or anything, but they are a solid football team. Upper half of the conference for sure.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
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They played us relatively tough for 4 quarters. They lost to a Top 15 Kentucky on the last play of the game. They whiplashed a Top 15 Florida team.
For what it is worth, college football seems down.
At a glance, Kentucky and Florida do not look like top 20 teams to me. When the SEC "beats each other up" like this, there is the chance that we are just overrated.
Kentucky is too 1 dimensional and Florida is too early in the rebuild process.
We will have to wait for bowl season to find out, I guess. Even if we win bowls, I don't expect us to look like a dominant conference as we have in years past (i.e. Missouri versus Purdue).
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, I mean I don't think they are national title contenders or anything, but they are a solid football team. Upper half of the conference for sure.
My thoughts exactly. I actually was thinking they should get rid of Odom last year, if he did not show significant improvement this year. It just seemed like they were going backwards, and in a hurry.
They have been very solid this year. not great, by any stretch, but solid, definitely. It will be interesting to watch them and see if they continue to show improvement. Missouri just might have found them another diamond in the rough with Odom.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:38 am to meansonny
Yea I don't disagree, especially on Kentucky and Florida (I think Georgia is pretty correctly rated). I don't think last year's Mizzou team plays as well in those 2 games, though.
I think Kentucky has been exposed a bit the last few weeks. You just can't go an entire season with no semblance of a passing game. And Florida, credit to Mullen, but I just don't think they are very good at anything in particularly. I'm not sure how they've won 8 games.
I think Kentucky has been exposed a bit the last few weeks. You just can't go an entire season with no semblance of a passing game. And Florida, credit to Mullen, but I just don't think they are very good at anything in particularly. I'm not sure how they've won 8 games.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, I mean I don't think they are national title contenders or anything, but they are a solid football team. Upper half of the conference for sure.
5th best team in the East.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Upper half of the conference for sure.
Presently, they are 3-4 in conference.
Close home win against vandy and a close home loss to kentucky.
Best case scenario after playing the worst team in conference, they are .500 in conference play.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:40 am to DawgsLife
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My thoughts exactly. I actually was thinking they should get rid of Odom last year, if he did not show significant improvement this year. It just seemed like they were going backwards, and in a hurry.
They have been very solid this year. not great, by any stretch, but solid, definitely. It will be interesting to watch them and see if they continue to show improvement. Missouri just might have found them another diamond in the rough with Odom.
Their defensive front is really good, their backs and o-line are solid and Dooley has done a pretty nice job once he got comfortable. Lock is still Lock, sometimes he looks like the #1 pick and sometimes he looks like he has no idea how to throw the ball.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:44 am to meansonny
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At a glance, Kentucky and Florida do not look like top 20 teams to me.
There are times they have looked like top 20 teams, and at times they have looked completely lost...no doubt about that.
quote:This is a criticism leveled at them, but when I have watched them, their QB actually does not look that bad throwing the ball.
Kentucky is too 1 dimensional
quote:True.
Florida is too early in the rebuild process.
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We will have to wait for bowl season to find out, I guess. Even if we win bowls, I don't expect us to look like a dominant conference as we have in years past (i.e. Missouri versus Purdue).
I agree again. I really think the SEC will do well in the Bowls, though.
Georgia/Alabama (loser of SECCG)
LSU
Florida
Kentucky
I can't think of a conference that can go head to head with the SEC top to bottom. Even Vanderbilt and Texas A&M played some huge teams (Clemson and ND) in tough hard fought games that neither should have been able to stay in.
Like you said, though....Bowl season will shed more light on things.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:44 am to scrooster
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5th best team in the East.
ESPN FPI : 2nd best East
S&P+ : 3rd best East
Sagarin : 2nd best East
South Carolina's rotating West opponent was Ole Miss. Missouri's was Alabama. Swap those 2 and Missouri is 4-3 in the SEC and USCe is 3-5. So, I'll use overall metrics rather than "South Carolina got to play a 5-7 team while Missouri had to play a 12-0 team" as a reason they are 5th in the East.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:46 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:45 am to meansonny
There really isn't much separating teams ranked outside of the top 10 from teams that are unranked and bowl eligible.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:47 am to meansonny
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Best case scenario after playing the worst team in conference, they are .500 in conference play.
I would argue Arkansas, Vanderbilt and Ole Miss are worse than Tennessee, but I understand your point.
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