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re: Mississippi Ethics Commission tells Ole Miss to produce names

Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:59 pm to
Dude, read your own damned link.

Rebel Rags isn't an educational institution that receives funds under a department of education program so FERPA has no bearing on them at all. They can release anything they danged well please.

Lewis isn't a student at OM, so unless he applied there they don't possess any records governed by FERPA either.

Not one thing you said in your post is true.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:10 pm to
RR RECIEVED THEIR INFORMATION FROM THE NCAA NOA! THE COMMENTS BY SA 39 IS WHAT RR IS SUING OVER. THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHO TO SUE WITHOUT ILLEGALLY OBTAINING THOSE NAMES FROM OLE MISS. BY REVEALING THOSE NAMES THEY AND OLEM MISS ARE VIOLATING FERPA LAWS. GO SNIFF A BUTTHOLE
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17462 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

JustGetItRight


You don't understand, he read this all on ED so it has to be true.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 5:26 pm to
There is no private right of action under FERPA. Students cannot sue the school for FERPA violations. The Federal Education Department enforces it by requiring schools to correct practices that violate the act, often after a student has complained and the department has reviewed the school's response to the complaint or inquiry by the department and found the response insufficient. If the school does not comply after further discussion, federal student loan funding can be cut off, an exceedingly rare event.

So even if FERPA was violated, unless there is a student complaint, an investigation or inquiry by the Department of Education, and then a refusal to take appropriate action to prevent further violation, if a violation is found, nothing will actually happen of consequence in connection to FERPA as related to the Lewis matter. Lewis can't sue, and absent Education Department action, nothing else will happen on that issue.

And as noted, if Ole Miss doesn't have "educational records" for Lewis, FERPA does not apply.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51406 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:21 pm to
If you go to court, the court will usually give deference to the public records opinion.

The government agency or body hash some protection from penalties if it is following an opinion of the AG or EC.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:32 pm to
i really have no idea i was just making up stuff using the googles. sometimes i like to go out on the fringe just to test the waters. FERPA doesn't seem like it would apply however from my research it does seem like the NCAA tries to operate in some gray area and not a good precedent has been set. I don't see it as a valid argument. The case is still frivolous because it speculates on disparagement of future earnings. RR's revenue will likely go up as a result of all of this.
Posted by Road to 16
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2014
823 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Yes they ordered OM to put out the booster's names. OM is a public institution not protected by education privacy laws like Leo Lewis and are subject to FOIA request. BTW you reb are ignorant. try reading more.


You are right. Student names will not be released. However, if I remember correctly SA 39 claimed that he was paid $10,000 from another school. Will the other institution names be produced as well? Could get interesting
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51406 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:43 pm to
NCAA often tries to work with universities to skirt public records laws.

For example, the NCAA will sometimes not send a notice or other records. They will send a password to a portal on the website. School officials can then see them on the NCAA website but are not in actual possession of them so public records laws don't apply.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:02 am to
Yates, how old are you, 16?
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:05 am to
Ask Florida State about what you posted.

You are 100% wrong per usual.

FSU had to open the secret website.
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