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re: Miles success at LSU bodes well for Alabama and their life after Saban
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:59 pm to Goombaw
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:59 pm to Goombaw
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but if not for his success there LSU would be just another Ole Miss or Arkansas.
If Saban didn't give up on the NFL, Bama would be another SMU and Bubba's Blue&Orange Sporting Gear Proshop would be on the NYSE.
Am I doin it right?
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:01 pm to inelishaitrust
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Doesn't hurt that they'd get to pick pretty much whichever coach they'd want.
I have lived through some really bad coaches in the post-Bryant era.....Mal got it right with Saban but I wouldn't under estimate the BOT and boosters to shite the bed again and again.....I just hope we don't have the same meddling as we did after Bryant retired
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:04 pm to 14&Counting
Don't worry about that, all those "it has to be a Bryant boy" folks are mostly dead at this point.
And Saban pretty much shut up the rest.
Alabama fans want a coach who will win and don't care about anything else.
And Saban pretty much shut up the rest.
Alabama fans want a coach who will win and don't care about anything else.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:04 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Miles is proof that Saban's magic lingers around a program sometime after his departure
Michigan State and Miami Dolphin fans totally agree
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:04 pm to CBandits82
Ole Miss has 6.
Arkansas won a bunch in the SWC.
Both were has-beens. So was LSU until Nick Saban rolled along, So was Bama. UT and Florida are headed that way.
Arkansas won a bunch in the SWC.
Both were has-beens. So was LSU until Nick Saban rolled along, So was Bama. UT and Florida are headed that way.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:05 pm to 12
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I think Jim Harbaugh will do a great job with the talent Saban is going to leave behind.
Keep dreaming
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:06 pm to IAmReality
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Alabama fans want a coach who will win and don't care about anything else.
Every fan base feels this way,
It's impossible to know what will happen. Coaching hires are a huge crapshoot.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:09 pm to Goombaw
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:10 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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If Saban didn't give up on the NFL, Bama would be another SMU
Exactly. I don't deny Saban rescued Alabama from the brink of obscurity.
If Saban left tomorrow, but we stayed relevant and had multiple successful seasons including a couple of Title runs over the next 5-6 years, I'd be crazy to deny that his time here at Alabama had anything to do with it.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:11 pm to Les
Coker was cheap and Miami is/was in financial ruin. Facilities are still garbage. That's one program with different leadership and support would be just dominant.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:12 pm to Goombaw
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If Saban left tomorrow, but we stayed relevant and had multiple successful seasons including a couple of Title runs over the next 5-6 years, I'd be crazy to deny that his time here at Alabama had anything to do with it.
You say that now but I guarantee you'd want to defend your new coach and not minimize his actually, you know, coaching the team as the predominant factor.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:12 pm to Goombaw
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They've done a great job of maintaining it, but if not for his success there LSU would be just another Ole Miss or Arkansas.
Okay,if Saban hadn't gotten to Tuscaloosa in 2007 Alabama would be continuing its path to Ole Miss and Arkansas that DuBose,Franchione and Shula were on.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You're probably right, but I'd be wrong.
I'm not at all taking anything away from the coaching job Miles has done. I think he's a great coach and he's done a fine job at LSU both coaching and recruiting.
I do however think that OP is right, in that LSU might not have even been able to get a coach like Les Miles to consider coming there without Saban's success. He took LSU from a team that wasn't necessarily a top-tier program to a destination job.
National Championships do that.
I'm not at all taking anything away from the coaching job Miles has done. I think he's a great coach and he's done a fine job at LSU both coaching and recruiting.
I do however think that OP is right, in that LSU might not have even been able to get a coach like Les Miles to consider coming there without Saban's success. He took LSU from a team that wasn't necessarily a top-tier program to a destination job.
National Championships do that.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:27 pm to Nissanmaxima
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Saban did not have shite to do with our run in 11' dumb arse. Now go back and keep praying that Tenn can be half the program that LSU is
This is just wrong. Saban had everything to do with that 2011 team. The program he built. The reputation as an elite team. The facilities. The expanded fanbase. All that came as a result of what Saban did while he was there. Saban built that Mercedes. Miles is just cruising around in it. Although it looks like the paint is starting to chip and the tires are getting a little balled.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:30 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Miles is proof that Saban's magic lingers around a program sometime after his departure
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Tennessee Jed
You'd think UT fans would worry about other things besides riding Bama's program.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:32 pm to CrimsonCoast
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Saban had everything to do with that 2011 team
Nope
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Although it looks like the paint is starting to chip and the tires are getting a little balled.
Be sure to watch the HS All-Star games and how many Purple & Gold selections are made.
Oh, and watch again in 2014 and 2015
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:33 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Okay,if Saban hadn't gotten to Tuscaloosa in 2007 Alabama would be continuing its path to Ole Miss and Arkansas that DuBose,Franchione and Shula were on.
If you'll notice above, I completely agree with this. Alabama was a has-been, albeit one that had won a National Championship in the previous 15 years. Still, they were in a decline that they showed no signs overcoming until Saban arrived.
On a side note, LSU hadn't won a title in over 40 years when Saban took over. Now they've won 2 in the last 10 years.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:35 pm to Goombaw
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I do however think that OP is right, in that LSU might not have even been able to get a coach like Les Miles to consider coming there without Saban's success. He took LSU from a team that wasn't necessarily a top-tier program to a destination job.
Well then how did we get a guy like Nick Saban to come to Baton Rouge if it was such a shitty job before he got here?
LSU has always been considered a great job in coaching circles, we just have historically done a piss poor job of hiring the right guys. Steve Spurrier, Bobby Bowden, Frank Thomas, Mike Shannahan and Ara Parsegian all wanted the LSU job at some point and we turned them down.
I know a lot of you think "the 90's" is all LSU was before Saban but you're just flat out wrong.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:36 pm to CrimsonCoast
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Saban had everything to do with that 2011 team
WOW, just wow.
At least with 2007 you have the lame and flawed "Saban's players" argument.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I know a lot of you think "the 90's" is all LSU was before Saban but you're just flat out wrong.
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