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re: Mike Mayock's pre-combine postion rankings
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:22 pm to adammwilson
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:22 pm to adammwilson
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Just admit Manziel struggled VS LSU and move on.
I was wrong, you totally don't want a pissing match.
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:23 pm to Patton
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That is an interesting question that I don't know the answer to.
None of us really know. I would guess they would be equal.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:23 pm to Projectpat
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I was wrong, you totally don't want a pissing match.
you are so sensitive it's pathetic. Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:24 pm to Patton
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Will Manziel's struggles against LSU count more than his success against Alabama?
There have been a couple scout articles about it and considering it's more recent it very well might.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:28 pm to adammwilson
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you are so sensitive it's pathetic.
Because I'm trying to salvage a decent thread from you jumping in with your flaming? Ok, I'll go back to troll mode.
You won't even remember Manziel's games vs LSU after Speedy's won his 4th straight over you playing QB and high every game.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:32 pm to Projectpat
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you jumping in with your flaming?
How was I flaming? I'm not even an LSU fan. Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:38 pm to adammwilson
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Guess you missed Johnny VS LSU in 2012?
^flame
Has jack shite to do with Evans performance in the A&M-LSU game in 2013, which is what we were talking about. I know you have a hard on for bashing Manziel, but go make a new thread.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:43 pm to Projectpat
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Has jack shite to do with Evans performance in the A&M-LSU game in 2013, which is what we were talking about
Sure it does. Manziel does not perform well VS LSU. In turn, Evans did not perform very well VS LSU this year in part because Manziel did not. Whatever homer is gonna homer.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:48 pm to Projectpat
The LSU fans thinking either WR is even close to Evans is laughable to me
Evans 40 time will be closer to 4.5 and he is to me the #2 WR behind Watkins. I am a fan of a team with a big physical monster WR that can take over games
Evans = Vincent Jackson 2.0
I think Jake Matthews will go over Greg Robinson, I like Greg because he is a mauler but Matthews is fairly balanced I dunno I guess it's a teams preference and I that will make the difference.
Mosley is fine against the run, Mack is a much different player a D scheme would have to use differently so again up to a teams preference
Manziel is gonna be fine in the League
Evans 40 time will be closer to 4.5 and he is to me the #2 WR behind Watkins. I am a fan of a team with a big physical monster WR that can take over games
Evans = Vincent Jackson 2.0
I think Jake Matthews will go over Greg Robinson, I like Greg because he is a mauler but Matthews is fairly balanced I dunno I guess it's a teams preference and I that will make the difference.
Mosley is fine against the run, Mack is a much different player a D scheme would have to use differently so again up to a teams preference
Manziel is gonna be fine in the League
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:50 pm to BuccWildBammer
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I think Jake Matthews will go over Greg Robinson, I like Greg because he is a mauler but Matthews is fairly balanced I dunno I guess it's a teams preference and I that will make the difference.
Potential>>> SR player.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:15 pm to adammwilson
Chris Smith should run a good time, but his size might make him more of a LB prospect. Interested to see how that goes
Posted on 2/17/14 at 11:21 pm to gohogs141
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Chris Smith should run a good time, but his size might make him more of a LB prospect. Interested to see how that goes
Classic tweener based on everything I've read/seen.
Too small to play DE and too slow to play LB. FWIW.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:48 am to BuccWildBammer
Do you still post on the sec rant as if people take your opinion seriously?
Posted on 2/18/14 at 3:48 am to adammwilson
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Don't agree with the narrative that Manziel struggled with LSU because of injuries.
What do you mean you "don't agree with it"? It isn't a matter of opinion, it's a fact. Dude's throwing hand was fractured and it was compounded by the fact that he was trying to throw a wet ball that day. He also had an undisclosed foot injury which was even worse against Mizzu.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 3:49 am
Posted on 2/18/14 at 3:54 am to Patton
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Will Manziel's struggles against LSU count more than his success against Alabama? (Meaning to scouts)
His game against Bama this year, given the level of competition, was one of the greatest single game offensive showings in CFB history. He had 550 total yards and 5 TDs himself against a defense that allowed a total of 4 TDs in the week before and the nine weeks after COMBINED.
I would tend to think that would outweigh two bad games which consisted of his sixth career start as a freshman and a game in which he played with a broken hand.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 3:58 am to adammwilson
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Manziel does not perform well VS LSU.
Given that he performed incredibly in two games against even better defenses, a logical person might look for other reasons for the struggles in those games apart from just "lol he sucks".
But like I said, that would be what a logical person would do.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:08 am to Roger Klarvin
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What do you mean you "don't agree with it"? It isn't a matter of opinion, it's a fact.
I'm saying the injury was not the whole story.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:09 am to Roger Klarvin
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a logical person might look for other reasons for the struggles in those games apart from just "lol he sucks".
Sure. Manziel's style helps him succeed VS a 3-4 system. Both LSU and Bama have great Defenses. Chavis does a brilliant job gameplanning VS Johnny and plays to Manziel's weaknesses.
That satisfy you?
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:17 am to SofaKingTrill
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Do you still post on the sec rant as if people take your opinion seriously?
Coming from a newb who will never have my level of swag that is just awesome TY bro
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:22 am to Patton
I think mason has a great shot at being better than the 5th back in this class, but I understand why he's there... scouts love to see the elite traits... tre's good a lot of things, but not necessarily elite at anything... good speed, but not a burner... good hands, but not a big pass catching threat.
His strengths are his vision and shiftiness... he's great at making one cut and getting passed guys. He'll also battle a little bit of the "system RB" stigma... he got TONS of yards before he was ever touched by a defender.
His strengths are his vision and shiftiness... he's great at making one cut and getting passed guys. He'll also battle a little bit of the "system RB" stigma... he got TONS of yards before he was ever touched by a defender.
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