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re: Mettenberger and Manziel neck and neck for top SEC QB
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:05 am to genro
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:05 am to genro
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Nothing would surprise me. JFF, AJ, Mett, and Murray all going in the first wouldn't surprise me.
I can't remember more than 4 QBs ever being taken in the 1st round (certainly can't remember this happening in the last 10 years or so). If the SEC puts four QBs in the first round I would be more than surprised since NFL scouts seem to love Bridgewater and Hundley, among others, more than any of the SEC guys.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:05 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Manziel is like 5 foot 8 and is a convicted felon who gets lucky every time he throws it, no way he gets drafted
You're so bitter. Relax a little.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:06 am to elposter
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I can't remember more than 4 QBs ever being taken in the 1st round (certainly can't remember this happening in the last 10 years or so)
Last year bro
Luck
Griffin
Tannehill
Weeden
More than 4, I'm an idiot
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:06 am to craigbiggio
ETA: saw your edit.
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:07 am to ljhog
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there has never been a "scrambling QB" win a championship.
Vick has won a ton of games. Hell, Kaepernick won the NFC last year.
The issue isn't a QB that runs. It's finding one that's committed to passing first so they don't die in the open field.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:07 am to NBamaAlum
End up a Cam Newton? Knowing the playbook would improve that team.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:08 am to craigbiggio
That was the 2012 draft.
There's still a lot of football left to be played, but there's nobody as good as Luck or Griffin. Now, there could be 5 or 6 guys as good as Tannehill......
There's still a lot of football left to be played, but there's nobody as good as Luck or Griffin. Now, there could be 5 or 6 guys as good as Tannehill......
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:26 am to wadewilson
quote:This. Most running QBs go into run mode far too quickly, well before they have to. It becomes a crutch, and diminshes the power of the NFL QB position. The true pocket passer has been, and probably always will be, superior in the NFL.
The issue isn't a QB that runs. It's finding one that's committed to passing first
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:47 pm to Thunder Tiger
It's not only that, by running, they expose themselves to probable injury. Look at Griffin, or Vick when he was younger.
NFL defenses have figured out pretty quickly that if they hit the QB, he'll stop running.
NFL defenses have figured out pretty quickly that if they hit the QB, he'll stop running.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:53 pm to genro
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AJ better than all 3.
no
Posted on 10/1/13 at 1:27 pm to wadewilson
quote:True, good point. A running QB seems to run counter to modern efforts to provide more and more protection to QBs.
It's not only that, by running, they expose themselves to probable injury. Look at Griffin, or Vick when he was younger.
NFL defenses have figured out pretty quickly that if they hit the QB, he'll stop running.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 2:55 pm to Thunder Tiger
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A running QB seems to run counter to modern efforts to provide more and more protection to QBs.
Once they tuck the ball and run, they're not quarterbacks anymore. Teams are taking a risk drafting a guy like RGIII. But, as long as they keep picking up guys like that, they'll need backups for them.
Point being, there's definitely a place in the league for a guy like Manziel. The question is if he's dedicated to changing his game up a bit when he starts getting tackled by professional players.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 2:59 pm to SwayzeBalla
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Bo Wallace
Everyone else
Vandy disagrees.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:35 pm to wadewilson
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Point being, there's definitely a place in the league for a guy like Manziel. The question is if he's dedicated to changing his game up a bit when he starts getting tackled by professional players.
honestly reading this thread makes me wonder if people have watched Manziel play at all this year.
Manziel is averaging 6 fewer carries per game than last year. He's also averaging 2.1 more yards per pass attempt and improved his completion percentage despite no longer having Swope as a security blanket. He's on pace to pass for 36 TDs (the all-time SEC record is 40). His game has already evolved.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:38 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Mett still needs to prove himself against a good secondary.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:41 pm to skrayper
quote:Bama's secondary was the best in the country last year....
Mett still needs to prove himself against a good secondary.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:41 pm to skrayper
He already has.
He's easily the most accurate pocket passer in the conference.
He's easily the most accurate pocket passer in the conference.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:51 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Manziel is like 5 foot 8 and is a convicted felon who gets lucky every time he throws it, no way he gets drafteds
He clearly needs another year or two to develop.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:53 pm to ljhog
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If you can't stand in the pocket and deliver the ball on time and on a dime, you can't play in the NFL.
You clearly tuned in after the first TD.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:54 pm to tigerskin
If you chose Mett over JFF you're a fricking moron.
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