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re: Merril Hoge Has Spoken: JFF Will Be a Bust

Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by RebFeBrees
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:44 pm to
I've hated MH since I was like 12 watching Edge NFL Matchup on Sunday mornings before church. Total d-bag.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:46 pm to
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he won't be able to just heave the ball and pray his receiver is the one that comes down with it

Yeah, chunking it up to Mike Evans in the middle of the field isn't going to work. It's just that he did a whole lot more than that.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:48 pm to
Merril Hoge doesnt even know how to tie a damn tie. frick that guy
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:49 pm to
There is no denying that he will have to refine his game. Some of the stuff he did at A&M isn't going to fly in the NFL and I think that is what concerns people. He sometimes had 7-8 seconds in the pocket because A&M's OL was so good. It was absolutely absurd the amount of time he had in some games. It's a lot easier to make some throws when receivers have 7 second to get free. That will almost never happen in the NFL.

These aren't my opinions but obviously you can see where some at the next level would be hesitant with him.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:50 pm to
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There is no denying that he will have to refine his game.


so will every player that gets drafted
Posted by kage
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:51 pm to
But what did Hoge's tie knot have to say about JFF?

Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:51 pm to
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so will every player that gets drafted

Exactly so not everything he is saying is off base.
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:54 pm to
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These aren't my opinions but obviously you can see where some at the next level would be hesitant with him.



Sure. I mean Brett Farve went in the second round.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:54 pm to
I guess we'll see. I hope he does well. Fran Tarkenton was fun to watch and I hope JFF can do that same kind of thing. It'll be interesting to see if Houston takes him or goes with, say, Clowney.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:55 pm to
just look at this fricking moron




Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:56 pm to
Personally, I think he will succeed in the NFL. Dude is an absolute freak of an athlete. I'm just try to look at it from both angles.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:59 pm to
I think he will to. A&M's D was horrible but I think he had a better year 2013 than 2012, even with all the pressure squarely on him.
Posted by No Diggity Tiger
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:07 pm to
The only thing "bust" about JFF is his "busty" girlfriend, Lauren Hanley

Hoge obviously hasn't been watching any nfl games lately
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:09 pm to
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He has absolutely no instinct or feel for pocket awareness. He has an instinct to run.


You can always tell the people who have only seen 2012 highlight reels. So many of these NFL "analysts" are absolute morons.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:13 pm to
yeah, Terry Bradshaw said Cam Newton would be a bust too.

Merrill Hoge needs to learn how to tie his tie. That thing looks like a tire jack under his neck.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:14 pm to
The things Johnny has going for him are the fact that he has freakish athletic skills and instincts. Also, he can throw the ball really well from outside the pocket. I expect him to impress at his pro day in ways that Bridgewater wasn't able to do.

While Hoge makes some good observations about Johnny not displaying traditional QB attributes, he is only a RS-soph with a lot of upside.

If he can develop into a Russell Wilson by the time he is 25 then I think he can play in the league. The NFL is evolving, offenses are adapting new styles each year.

All the QBs in this draft are a little overhyped, but that is what happens every year. But he is a great competitor and I wish him the best of luck wherever he lands.

Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:39 pm to
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Wasnt JFF the most accurate passer in the SEC last year?


and 3rd in the nation.


And the most accurate pocket passer in the nation. In other words, he completed a higher percentage of his passes that were thrown from within the pocket than any other QB in the nation.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:39 pm to
I think Hoge is usually a complete idiot, but he's right here. Manziel is going to be a bust and very overrated going into the NFL. He's going to get crushed by NFL defensive ends and outside linebackers all day long.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:40 pm to
I think Hoge may have put that tie on a little tight.
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