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re: Malachi and Speedy both going pro, who gets drafted first?

Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by wrecking crew
Canada
Member since Apr 2014
1108 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:06 pm to
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character concerns

We are talking nfl here. That will be a plus for him
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6284 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:17 pm to
Louisiana is not special. It's no different than any state in the deep south with similar demographics. Those states just have more than one power 5 university.

Alabama has more kids sign D1 scholarships and has more players in the NFL. Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina and Louisiana have all held the distinction of most NFL players per capita within the last decade.

The state Alabama just has 2 Big 6 schools that win National Championships. The state of South Carolina has an ACC power and an SEC team, while the state of Mississippi has 2 SEC teams despite its small population.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:33 pm to
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Hasn't he already busted out of the league?


Nice try, but he's still playing in the NFL.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:10 pm to
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Louisiana is not special. It's no different than any state in the deep south with similar demographics


Your hate for anything Louisiana or LSU makes your opinion invalid. Louisiana is the 5th best state when it comes to highschool talent.

Texas
California
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana

Idk what you consider "special" but being top 5 seems pretty good to me.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 7:11 pm
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6284 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:14 pm to
Lies. Louisiana is in the top 10, but it's behind Alabama and Ohio for sure. I might be missing some others.

I think the reason LSU fans melt so bad is because they seem to not know their true place when it comes to football.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:19 pm to
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Lies. Louisiana is in the top 10, but it's behind Alabama and Ohio for sure. I might be missing some others.

I think the reason LSU fans melt do bad is because they seem to not no their true place when it comes to football.


Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:57 pm to
Better question is which was a bigger dissapointment? Probably Speedy by a nose. Both failed to come even close to the hype.
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
3816 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:06 pm to
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Better question is which was a bigger dissapointment? Probably Speedy by a nose. Both failed to come even close to the hype.

Weedy is a bigger disapointment by a mile.

Malachi is a good young man with tons of upside if he gets stronger. He will test very well at the combine and will probably go in the 2nd or 3rd rd of the NFL draft.

Speedy is built like a RB and is a headcase with a drug problem (much like Tim Williams), and will be lucky to get drafted.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:00 pm to
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Lies. Louisiana is in the top 10, but it's behind Alabama and Ohio for sure. I might be missing some others.

I think the reason LSU fans melt so bad is because they seem to not know their true place when it comes to football.



Yeah, you can go ahead and write off anything this guy posts as pure stupidity.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:10 am to
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I think the reason LSU fans melt so bad is because they seem to not know their true place when it comes to football.


What's Vandy's true place when it comes to football? Perpetual homecoming team.
Posted by bluephi1914
Member since Jul 2016
204 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:24 am to

How people still believe in recruiting rankings is mind boggling




hey it matters to Alabama it matters to ohio st. it matters to florida st. it matters to Clemson. rankings do matter but every now and then they are wrong just like me and u. my momma and my cousin too. nothing is absolute but numbers don't lie. rankings do matter. I rather have 8 5-stars than 8 3-stars anyday of the week. toodles



Posted by IvanCCCP
U.S.A.
Member since Oct 2016
698 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:26 am to
Dupre. Speedy may not go till round 2 or 3 based on his off the field issues.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:45 am to
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Dupre. Speedy may not go till round 2 or 3 based on his off the field issues.


Speedy's not getting drafted. Dupre may slip to day 3.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53814 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:49 am to
Dupree will be awesome in the pros. I think LSU could have won games this year by throwing to him every play. Dude can get open.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:00 pm to
That's crazy talk man.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:07 pm to
You must be thinking of Chark. Dupree was worthless this year.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:09 pm to
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worthless

Kinda like going 14-0 only to piss the bed in the final game
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:11 pm to
6 in a row

L6U stuck with 0

3 time defending SEC Champs


Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123595 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:20 pm to
Do you ever post anything worth a shite or is it just constant flaming/trolling? Serious question.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Recruiting rankings are entertainment to make it through the long off season. People let them set false expectations though.

Devonta Smith
Tyron Johnson
Malachi Dupre
Speedy Noil
Jarvis Landry
Travon Reed
Ruben Randle
Deangelo Benton
Early Doucet
Duke Williams

All were 5 stars and only Landry produced on that level. I'm probably missing some other 5 star WRs from LA.

It's ridiculous to think that many 5 star WRs all could come from Louisiana in such a short period.

I know grown men that swear by them. They always show percentages of 5 stars making it to the league, anything to justify putting stock into them.

Professional scouts have unlimited resources, access to practices, college game tape, the combine interviews, and the Senior Bowl etc. They still can't properly project 21 -23 year olds that have been somewhat developed. The draft is always horrible when they go back and see what players panned out. 1st rders bust and undrafted players become pro-bowl or all pro caliber players.

There is no way possible some guys who run a website can properly rank thousands of high school kids. There is no possible way to discern the talent difference the #9 Wr and the # 3 MLB, but one player will be ranked 60 spots higher than the other.

It's all ridiculous.


This is correct, but you'll get a bunch of downvotes from guys who base their teams worth on "stars". They aren't completely useless, but not far off.

There is a certain group of kids every year who have very obvious elite athletic ability but it's small. 40-75 maybe. After that it's nothing more than a crap shoot and development is far more important than signing a bunch of "stars". Then of course you have the group of players who end up being great in college and turn pro who weren't on any recruiting sites radar and even fall through the cracks with coaches.

There are a few schools who have the recruiting clout to get enough of the obvious guys that they can play that game, but after that identification and development become the determining factor.

As you said, it's hard for even pro scouts to project a lot of these guys with a whole hell of a lot more to go on than any recruiting website has.
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