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re: LSU vs Bama Comparison by Position

Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:16 pm to
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Ok, so how many DB's do you think we are playing?


Simon, Reid, Collins, Mills, Loston, Eugene.

The thing is we use our guys in so many different ways. You could see (and we reguarly use them) any of the following :

Base : Milliner/Belue at CB, Lester at SS, HaHa at FS.

Base : Milliner/Belue at CB, Lester at SS, Perry at FS.

Base : Milliner/Belue at CB, Lester at FS, Sunseri at SS.

Nickel : Milliner/Belue at CB, Lester at SS, HaHa at FS, Vinnie at Star.

Nickel : Milliner/Belue at CB, Lester at SS, Perry at FS, Vinne at Star.

Nickel : Belue/Fulton at CB, Lester at SS, HaHa at FS, Milliner at Star.

Nickel : Belue/Fulton at CB, Lester at SS, Perry at FS, Milliner at Star.

Nickel : Belue/Fulton at CB, Lester at FS, Vinnie at SS, Milliner at Star.

Dime : Milliner/Belue at CB, Lester at SS, HaHa at FS, Vinnie at Star, Perry at Money.

Dime : Belue/Fulton at CB, Lester at SS, HaHa at FS, Milliner at Star, Vinnie at Money.

Dime : Belue/Fulton at CB, Lester at SS, Perry at FS, Milliner at Srar, Vinnie at Money.

Dime : Belue/Fulton at CB, Lester at SS, HaHa at FS, Milliner at Star, Perry at Money.

Dime : Belue/Fulton at CB, Lester at SS, HaHa at FS, Vinnie at Star, Perry at Money. (You wouldn't see this unless we went Dime and Milliner was injured or ineligible for the play)

Not only that, but our DBs are better. IMO (just an opinion, you may disagree. ) :

1) Milliner
2) Reid
3) Lester
4) Simon
5) Belue
6) HaHa
7) Mills
8) Sunseri
9) Collins
10) Loston
11) Fulton
12) Eugene
13) Perry
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:17 pm to
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Sorry but kevin minter > C.J Mosley




Based on what? His stats? He's played more downs than Mosley.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123594 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:18 pm to
Do you ever take off the Crimson and White glasses?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:19 pm to
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lsu's RBs are not any better than Bama's because LSU plays so many guys


1) You usually only have 1 RB on the field at time. Sometimes two.

2) You have more RBs, yes. Ford/Ware/Hill/Hilliard. We have 3 to your 4. Lacy/Yeldon/Drake, but don't expect Drake unless it's garbage time. You have a slightly better RB corps though because you have more RBs.

Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:20 pm to
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Do you ever take off the Crimson and White glasses?



Yes, all the time. I bring facts and always defer if something if better than anything Bama related.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:49 pm to
You're not being objective if you believe the first video's throw was not under thrown by 3-4 yards. Cooper has to wait on the ball, but UT's safety, who's late to the play because he was probably loaded in the box, can't make the play.

If he makes that throw versus LSU, it's picked or batted down by our safety.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6284 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 7:52 pm to
the MSU grinder nation said the same thing. "Those passes would be picked off vs our secondary. Banks, Slay etc.' They proceeded to get bombed on in the 1st qtr as well.

Bama will drop atleast 30 there is nothing Chavis can do about it.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9492 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 8:18 pm to
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AllBamaDoesIsWin


You forgot to add Ronald Martin.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 8:23 pm to
Nice troll
Posted by ps101
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2005
2194 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 8:44 pm to
The problem LSU has is that no receiver wanted to come to LSU with the shite offense Les served last year. No receiver wanted the NFL see highlights of them blocking downfield or blocking for a shite bubble screen.
Posted by stronghouse
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
908 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 8:45 pm to
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You're not being objective if you believe the first video's throw was not under thrown by 3-4 yards. Cooper has to wait on the ball, but UT's safety, who's late to the play because he was probably loaded in the box, can't make the play.

If he makes that throw versus LSU, it's picked or batted down by our safety.


I do agree it was under thrown. The safety was actually playing deep middle coverage and Kenny Bell's route took him away little.

I think you're reaching a little regarding how McCarron's is completing passes. Alabama's best formation is their 3WR 1TE 1RB set. This is the best set they have ran and thrown out of. Most of the time when they are in this set the box is not stacked. I'm not being a homer but alot of those passes he has thrown have been NFL type throws and very good.

I also think you are reaching regarding LSU not having to stack the box. Alabama has a good offensive line and LSU will need to bring a extra man or two in the box when Alabama goes to their 1TE 1HB set or their 2TE set. There's is no way any defense can play 7 on 7 with those formations and expect to stop a team from rushing. Alabama's defense wouldn't even be able to do that because the numbers woud not favor you on one side.
This post was edited on 11/1/12 at 8:48 pm
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 9:00 pm to
That's not stacking the box. Stacking the box means outnumbering the offensive line to stop the run because without numbers they couldn't stop the run. We can play two safeties in their normal alignment because of our defensive line. It's the kryptonite to your offensive line. It's the reason our games are so tight.

We're also one of the few teams who can run against Bama.

These components always make for a great game. I expect nothing less.

The original argument was Mccarron. I don't see the anticipation. I don't see deadly accurate. I see system QB. I see slightly better than game manager.

Of all the QBs Bama has had during the Saban era, he's better than McElroy but worse than JPW, the most undeservedly criticized QB in my lifetime. He threw a beautiful deep ball and was deceptively athletic.

I don't see it with Mccarron. Like I said, he's better than Mett, but that's not saying much.
Posted by stronghouse
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
908 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 9:34 pm to
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That's not stacking the box. Stacking the box means outnumbering the offensive line to stop the run because without numbers they couldn't stop the run. We can play two safeties in their normal alignment because of our defensive line. It's the kryptonite to your offensive line. It's the reason our games are so tight.

[quote]We're also one of the few teams who can run against Bama.

These components always make for a great game. I expect nothing less.

The original argument was Mccarron. I don't see the anticipation. I don't see deadly accurate. I see system QB. I see slightly better than game manager.

Of all the QBs Bama has had during the Saban era, he's better than McElroy but worse than JPW, the most undeservedly criticized QB in my lifetime. He threw a beautiful deep ball and was deceptively athletic.

I don't see it with Mccarron. Like I said, he's better than Mett, but that's not saying much


Dude what are you talking about. Stacking the box is when ever you bring 8 or more defenders within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. LSU did it in the BSC Championship game. If the safties were playing in their original spot then Norwood would not have been alone to abuse Mathieu the way he did. The wide open pass AJ missed to Smelly deep early in the second quarter in the BCS game was due to you guys stacking the box very heavy.

I thnk JPW had a stronger arm than McCarron and I do think he was much better than what many give him credit for. But the spots AJ is putting his throws are amazing. I do not think AJ is a great QB, but he's far from average. I don't think he's a system QB either, because the system this year is built around him. He's a damn good QB.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26259 posts
Posted on 11/1/12 at 9:45 pm to
As a unit, bama's LBs > lsu's But Mosley isn't that much better than Minter.

bamatards, as usual, are basing their opinions on preseason accolades since none will admit they haven't really watched Minter play all season. They're reacting no different now than in 2010 when they were told Claiborne > Kirpatrick.

Carry on...
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 9:02 am to
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Mosley isn't that much better than Minter


EVEN

in fact
Mosley = Minter
This post was edited on 11/2/12 at 9:03 am
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 11/2/12 at 9:07 am to
Quarterbacks: BAMA
Receivers: BAMA
Running Backs: BAMA
LSU’s OL vs. Bama’s DL: BAMA
LSU’s DL vs. Bama”s OL: BAMA
Linebackers: BAMA
Defensive Backs: BAMA
Crowd: BAMA

Why even play the game? Amirite?

It's amazing to think LSU actually has a chance to win this annual game for a 3rd straight season. You'd think these programs were Miles apart listening to Gumps. Funny shite.
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