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re: LSU should totally hire Dabo...

Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:15 am to
Posted by Tillman
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:15 am to
i don't see how you can say SEC is a better conference, and even if it is, why does that make the LSU job better. Dabo's has shown Clemson can make the playoffs from the ACC so what difference does it make if the SEC is better. in my opiiion , SEC is basically a one team conference, similar to ACC back in the 90's with FSU.

Dabo recruits well from Clemson, i don't think LSU gives any advantage for recruiting. i think he can recruit Florida players better from Clemson than LSU, because CLemson is a lot different look and vibe than Florida than LSU is, and that is how he gets those players.

Clemson facilities and stadium are top shelf. got a new swank athletic building going up right now.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 12:16 am
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:16 am to
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LSU can and will pay more than clemson could pay for him and his staff, LSU is in a better conference, LSU is in a better recruiting area. LSU has a better stadium, better practice and workout room as well. LSU also has plenty of talent.


I don't believe Dabo will leave for Clemson for LSU.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:16 am to
no LSU is easier to recruit kids to, we have a talent rich state with no instate rival to split kids with. We are also next door to Texas. our recruiting radius smashes clemson since we have all of la and houston in the area.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:17 am to
i don't think he will either and he isn't even on any list for us to even want to get him. That doesn't change the fact that LSU is the better job.

Bama, USC, Texas, and Michigan are for sure better jobs than LSU when you take out current state of programs. After that its pretty merky, you could argue ND over us but they reside in a talentless wasteland and they are a has been.
Posted by Tillman
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:18 am to
ok so why did Dabo and Clemson land tajh Boyd, Sammy Watkins, CJ Spiller Deshuan Watson, etc all form out of state? :)

i think both the MS and AL schools get talent out of Louisiana as well as some of the big 12 schools. LSU did have to take out tulane's program back in the day for them to have any shot of being comeptitive lol
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 12:20 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:19 am to
except LSU recruits Florida extremely well. we even have success going down into the Miami area and pulling kids out.

LSU is a much better recruiting ground. our home state is better for recruiting alone and then add in we have no instate rival to poach kids from us.
Posted by Tillman
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:20 am to
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except LSU recruits Florida extremely well. we even have success going down into the Miami area and pulling kids out.

LSU is a much better recruiting ground. our home state is better for recruiting alone and then add in we have no instate rival to poach kids from us.




so why hasn't he been recruiting that well? QB always seems like a weak position. i assume LSU would have taken both Boyd and Watson lol
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 12:22 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:22 am to
congrats you got kids from out of state. do you want a cookie? we land kids from out of state all the time and with ease. However, its much easier to maintain power status if your state produces talent and you don't have to split that talent.

TOSU consistent power because they are in a recruit filled state, USC consistent power because home state kids can get them back on the map. FSU consistent power because of the ease of getting florida kids. Miami and so on, any program in a talent rich state is always a threat.

Nebraska is a has been because they have no instate talent to help them in lean years and get their footing back. They are gone, they lost their jucos and the out of state kids don't make them a top choice.

as long as La has talent it will keep LSU as a top 10 job.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:23 am to
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so why hasn't he been recruiting that well?


Lol. Recruiting has never been the problem at LSU.

There's only one school in the country that recruits better than LSU on a consistent basis.

Unfortunately, that school is in our division.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:23 am to
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LSU can and will pay more than clemson could pay for him and his staff, LSU is in a better conference, LSU is in a better recruiting area. LSU has a better stadium, better practice and workout room as well. LSU also has plenty of talent.


Clemson is on its way though. Unless we snap up Dabo. They could still have some success with whoever though in the ACC.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:24 am to
we have been recruiting well, we have plenty of talent. we even have recruited high profile qb's the issue has been fit. its pretty plain for anyone other than a retard to see that talent isn't the issue.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:26 am to
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ngrats you got kids from out of state. do you want a cookie? we land kids from out of state all the time and with ease. However, its much easier to maintain power status if your state produces talent and you don't have to split that talent.

TOSU consistent power because they are in a recruit filled state, USC consistent power because home state kids can get them back on the map. FSU consistent power because of the ease of getting florida kids. Miami and so on, any program in a talent rich state is always a threat.

Nebraska is a has been because they have no instate talent to help them in lean years and get their footing back. They are gone, they lost their jucos and the out of state kids don't make them a top choice.

as long as La has talent it will keep LSU as a top 10 job.


i think you may be living in the past tho, the reality is more programs are trying to be comeptitive in football now than back in the day, look at the emergencence of Baylor, TCU, etc, and this is diluting the talent level. that is why you have seen so many historic programs struggle in recent years, and they keep firing coaches but nothing changes.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:27 am to
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ol. Recruiting has never been the problem at LSU.

There's only one school in the country that recruits better than LSU on a consistent basis.

Unfortunately, that school is in our division.


i don't think your current team is all that talented. same with last year
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 12:28 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:28 am to
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think you may be living in the past tho, the reality is more programs are trying to be comeptitive in football now than back in the day, look at the emergencence of Baylor, TCU, etc,
wat

Its a zero sum game. For every hot new program that has emerged there is former great program that has fallen. Texas, Nebraska, USC, etc

Wait why am I arguing with this retard
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:28 am to
clemson will fall back to its normal spot soon enough. either Dabo moves on or worse for clemson Dabo starts to age and it becomes harder to get rid of him as he doesn't adjust, or he replaces a coach with one of his friends. That friend turns out to not be a great coach, now what does he do, fire him or get fired himself.

I think the friend thing is more likely since Dabo is pretty young, so he will probably keep up pretty well. His issue will be hiring someone to replace his OC or DC and that person being a friend. He will have a hard time firing him.

Also as pointed out earlier he has to keep making great oc and Dc hires. It is a razor thin margin of error for a coach if he can't take one side of the team if he makes a bad hire.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:28 am to
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i don't think your current team is all that talented.


You're crazy.

The SEC is just tougher.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 12:30 am
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:30 am to
it is funny you are trying to predict dabo will fail at some point lol. les miles failed, thus dabo will. why are these two joined at the hip

i could just as easily say Sbana is just a good CEO / cheerleader who makes good hires for DC and OC who make him look good.

obviously it isn't that simple.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 12:33 am
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:31 am to
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You're crazy.

The SEC is just tougher.


Clemson beat auburn at auburn tho, and had no problmo moving the ball on Bama in the title game, lsu didn't do much on bama last year.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:32 am to
no you missed the entire point of the post. a school in fertile recruiting grounds is much more likely to always be able to rebound.

sure some schools will rise and some will fall but LSU isn't likely to be one of those falling off a cliff to never return, unless we see a massive population shift and we lose all the high school talent that we have in the state.

The good news for LSU is that people born in la are far more likely to stay in the state. So it doesn't look like we will have big population shift anytime soon.

LSU could very easily go through another early or late 90s phase, hell I even expect it at some point. however, much like bama did we eventually get the right coach and we bounce back. we stay a while and then it wains, however the huskers are gone for good due to demographics.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:33 am to
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Clemson beat auburn at auburn tho, and had no problmo moving the ball on Bama in the title game, lsu didn't do much on bama last year.


Auburn is not very good this year. And moving the ball on Bama does not warrant a victory last time I checked. The ACC is playing hard though.
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