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re: LSU paying players?
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:17 pm to NYCAuburn
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:17 pm to NYCAuburn
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not sure why you are having a hard time with this
Because
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...and another meal at a university cafeteria
during the visit
during the
expense-paid visit to the university's campus of two
prospective student-athletes, the university paid
$33.48 to each young man as reimbursement for
round-trip automobile transportation
at the conclusion of the expense-paid visit to the
university's campus of a prospective student-athlete,
a graduate assistant football coach arranged for a
student-athlete to transport the young man and the
coach to the young man's home.
doesn't look anything like Auburn's major violations:
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Violation Sumary: EXTRA BENEFITS: athletics representatives provided at least $4,000 in cash and merchandise; assistant coach provided $500; administrative assistant provided several thousand dollars in cash payments; athletics representative approved a $9,200 and several other unsecured loans based upon future earnings as professional athletes; student-athletes allowed to enroll with oustanding accounts with the university. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE.
Nor do these penalties:
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The National Collegiate Athletic
Association's Committee on Infractions announced today that
Louisiana State University has been placed on probation for a
period of one year for violations occurring in the sport of football.
Included in the penalties is a requirement for the institution to
submit a written report to the NCAA by February l, l987, that
identifies measures taken to ensure that football coaching staff
members are knowledgeable regarding NCAA legislation.
No sanction affecting postseason competition or television
appearances was imposed against the university.
Look anything like Auburn's:
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Penalty Summary: Public reprimand; annual reports; reduction from 25 to 14 initial grants for 1993-94, 1994-95 and 1995-96; reduction from 88 to 86 total grants for 1993-94 and from 85 to 83 for 1994-95 and 1995-96; permanent disassociation of former assistant coach, former administrative assistant and two athletics representatives; separation of duties of head football coach and athletics director; recertification.
ETA: Oh yeah, and nowhere in Auburn's report does the phrase:
"The violations found in football were not considered serious in
nature,"
...appear.
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:23 pm to TiggerWoods
Said Shaq with tongue firmly in cheek and satirical meter pinging...........
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:24 pm to NYCAuburn
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Go ahead it only hurts you
Do you see that first word? Do you know what it means?
I know it only suggest that is the USUAL motivation.
But you left it out completely. That is a bit dishonest. THen you said it wasn't there.
Clearly it is.
Now can you read this definition.
quote:
Act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination
LINK
Thats a complete quote, and a link to the complete quote.
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Well one of is using facts and definitions and one us is distorting them because you got your feelings hurt.
You aren't using definitions. You are using 1/2 of a definition. You left half the words.
You are also ignoring second definition.
You are ignoring your problems. Just like a cowardly war ostrich.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:25 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
[quote]Because[/quote
Nice so you once again left off the other aspects, like the couple of hundred in cash, the camps that were paid for, hotel for family, tickets to be sold for cash etc....
I see you have resorted to deflection yet again. At what point do you give up and admit lsu has more than one football major infraction. It's comical how you are fighting actual facts.
Nice so you once again left off the other aspects, like the couple of hundred in cash, the camps that were paid for, hotel for family, tickets to be sold for cash etc....
I see you have resorted to deflection yet again. At what point do you give up and admit lsu has more than one football major infraction. It's comical how you are fighting actual facts.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:32 pm to SammyTiger
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ut you left it out completely. That is a bit dishonest. THen you said it wasn't there.
I left it off because it's not a qualifier for the definition. And it isn't no matter how hard you want it to be.
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You aren't using definitions. You are using 1/2 of a definition. You left half the words. You are also ignoring second definition.
It's not half of the definition as it's not a qualifier. And you want to accuse me of ignoring a second definition. You do have a mirror don't you?
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Ignoring your problems
You seem to be the one ignoring words and their usage. Sorry it's so hard.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:38 pm to NYCAuburn
Dude, THIS is "major":
This case is a very unfortunate one. The violations of NCAA rules that were committed at
Auburn University are indicative of what can occur when, in the minds of members of a
university's athletics department staff and representatives of its athletics interests, the athletics
program becomes more important than the university of which it is a part. As a result of this
case, Auburn University has become one of only three universities that have been placed on
probation six or more times by the NCAA. Since 1956 and prior to this case, Auburn
University's athletics program has been placed on probation for a total of 10 years.
This is not:
"The violations found in football were not considered serious in
nature," said Frank J. Remington, chair, NCAA Committee on
Infractions, "and they did not demonstrate a pattern of abuse by the
football coaching staff.
"LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL"
vs
"not considered serious in nature"
Gold, Jerry, gold...
This case is a very unfortunate one. The violations of NCAA rules that were committed at
Auburn University are indicative of what can occur when, in the minds of members of a
university's athletics department staff and representatives of its athletics interests, the athletics
program becomes more important than the university of which it is a part. As a result of this
case, Auburn University has become one of only three universities that have been placed on
probation six or more times by the NCAA. Since 1956 and prior to this case, Auburn
University's athletics program has been placed on probation for a total of 10 years.
This is not:
"The violations found in football were not considered serious in
nature," said Frank J. Remington, chair, NCAA Committee on
Infractions, "and they did not demonstrate a pattern of abuse by the
football coaching staff.
quote:
It's comical how you are fighting actual facts.
"LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL"
vs
"not considered serious in nature"
Gold, Jerry, gold...
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:39 pm to TiggerWoods
I think Bo Bahnsen would have gotten to the bottom of this YEARS AGO had there been anything credible of substance. The NCAA would have found something also.......
Shaq gonna Shaq....
Shaq gonna Shaq....
Posted on 1/26/16 at 4:43 pm to NYCAuburn
You don't get to decide what is part of a definition.
IF you are gonna go to a dictionary, and quote the dictionary's definition, bring the whole quote.
Also, "usually" IS a qualifier.
It qualifies the frequency of something.
I have 2 definitions. 1 is exactly what I said cheating is. The other says what i said is "usually" right.
You are ignoring part of your own defintion. And you don't know what a qualifier is.
LINK
Here is a bit of knowledge about qualifiers.
IF you are gonna go to a dictionary, and quote the dictionary's definition, bring the whole quote.
Also, "usually" IS a qualifier.
It qualifies the frequency of something.
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It's not half of the definition as it's not a qualifier. And you want to accuse me of ignoring a second definition. You do have a mirror don't you?
I have 2 definitions. 1 is exactly what I said cheating is. The other says what i said is "usually" right.
You are ignoring part of your own defintion. And you don't know what a qualifier is.
LINK
Here is a bit of knowledge about qualifiers.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:12 pm to TiggerWoods
Not as much as Newton I'm sure.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:52 pm to TiggerWoods
Hope we don't get stripped of any titles we won during this scandal
Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:21 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Barkly ! For sure shaq didn't know about money in Germany !
Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:25 pm to TiggerWoods
I hope we are paying players if that is what it takes
Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:28 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
You do know what a major ncaa infraction consists of, don't you?
Maybe we should start there.
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Gold, jerry, gold
What's gold is the fact that you are disputing a known and documented fact.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:35 pm to SammyTiger
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You don't get to decide what is part of a definition. IF you are gonna go to a dictionary, and quote the dictionary's definition, bring the whole quote. Also, "usually" IS a qualifier. It qualifies the frequency of something. quote: It's not half of the definition as it's not a qualifier. And you want to accuse me of ignoring a second definition. You do have a mirror don't you? I have 2 definitions. 1 is exactly what I said cheating is. The other says what i said is "usually" right. You are ignoring part of your own defintion. And you don't know what a qualifier is. LINK Here is a bit of knowledge about qualifiers.
I'm not deciding what the definition is, it's stated very clearly.
usually is not a qualifier as it does not mean always, I like how you didn't link the definition from the same source as your other failed argument.
Here you go, since you are having a difficult time
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a : one that satisfies requirements or meets a specified standard
My god it's amzaing the two LSU fans on this thread trying to dispute reality.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:16 am to NYCAuburn
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You do know what a major ncaa infraction consists of, don't you?
Apparently there are only a few schools that would be as expert on the subject as Auburn...
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Auburn University has become one of only three universities that have been placed on
probation six or more times by the NCAA. Since 1956 and prior to this case, Auburn
University's athletics program has been placed on probation for a total of 10 years.
...but I'm guessing any ONE of these would count:
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provided at least $4,000 in cash and merchandise;
assistant coach provided $500;
administrative assistant provided several thousand dollars in cash payments;
athletics representative approved a $9,200 and several other unsecured loans based upon future earnings as professional athletes;
student-athletes allowed to enroll with oustanding accounts with the university.
LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL.
UNETHICAL CONDUCT.
ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:18 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Deflecting yet again?
Defeat does that to a boy
Defeat does that to a boy
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:37 pm to NYCAuburn
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Deflecting yet again?
I'm not deflecting, you asked about what major infractions were, and I listed some.
I'm sorry if you're sensitive about Auburn's record as perennial cheaters.
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Defeat does that to a boy
..obviously.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:42 pm to TiggerWoods
Does anybody really question whether L$U pays its student-athletes? I would think not even L$U fans would question whether it happens.
Why y'all think L$U is the LOLpoors? They spent all their money on Shaq 25 years ago.
Why y'all think L$U is the LOLpoors? They spent all their money on Shaq 25 years ago.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:48 pm to KaiserSoze99
Aggies can't even pay a guy for hitting a half court shot smh.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:09 pm to GOAT1
Right?
Because why else would an athlete go play for a team coming off a national championship?
Clearly we paid him more and that's the only reason he didn't go to aTm
Because why else would an athlete go play for a team coming off a national championship?
Clearly we paid him more and that's the only reason he didn't go to aTm
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