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LSU journalist thinks they could go from last place to Elite Eight

Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:08 pm
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Robinson is the type of player that turns your bubble team into an Elite Eight team








Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:10 pm to
He might turn a bubble team to an elite 8 team but LSU is not a bubble team right now I think we're a bubble NIT team
Posted by TigerTalker16
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:10 pm to
Then I guess Missouri is winning a national championship.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:11 pm to
Homer journalist thinks his school could be better than what everyone else thinks. Stop the presses.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:16 pm to
I think this board will be pretty shocked with LSU's team this season, whether we get that kid or not.
Posted by DBU
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Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:18 pm to
LSU is maybe an NIT team right now. That dude is out of his mind thinking LSU is an elite 8 team with Mitchell Robinson.


Robinson will probably have to sit out if he transfers anyway. However if he comes with Naz Reid and Javonte Smart, LSU is going to have 3 5 star Mcdonald's AA and a lot of 4 stars behind them. If that happens LSU is a contender in 2018, sure.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:20 pm to
This journalist wrote an article on the world being made up of candy canes trees and unicorns and skittles waterfalls

So take it for what it's worth
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:22 pm to
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I think this board will be pretty shocked with LSU's team this season, whether we get that kid or not.



I agree, because 5-7 years ago this roster would have won the SECW. Now the conference is so stacked to the point I'm not sure how we finish better than 9-10th. However, everyone on the board seems to unanimously agree LSU is going to finish last, and I don't see the gap between 9-14 being as much as posters think
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:28 pm to
LSU isn't the worst team in the conference but no way Robinson makes them Elite 8 good.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:30 pm to
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I think this board will be pretty shocked with LSU's team this season, whether we get that kid or not


I think that LSU fans will be shocked at how much more work and time it takes than they thought to rebuild a last place basketball team, whether you get that kid or not.

Especially with how loaded the conference is at present.
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:30 pm to
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This journalist wrote an article on the world being made up of candy canes trees and unicorns and skittles waterfalls So take it for what it's worth


care to elaborate? all i noticed was his last name was the same as their stud pitcher this past year.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:39 pm to
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I agree, because 5-7 years ago this roster would have won the SECW. Now the conference is so stacked to the point I'm not sure how we finish better than 9-10th


Yeah, I've been saying for a couple months now that even just 2-3 years ago I would have felt without a doubt confidence that Auburn's current roster would make the NCAA Tournament. I think our team now has more overall talent a depth top to bottom than our 2003 team that went to the Sweet 16 and lost by 1 to Carmelo Anthony's national championship Syracuse team... But this league is loaded right now. I think there's still a better than not chance we make it, but it's going to be a struggle and it's definitely no sure thing.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:40 pm to
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I think that LSU fans will be shocked at how much more work and time it takes than they thought to rebuild a last place basketball team

Just because it's taking Pearl forever doesn't mean it'll take forever for everyone else.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29120 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:46 pm to
quote:


I think that LSU fans will be shocked at how much more work and time it takes than they thought to rebuild a last place basketball team, whether you get that kid or not.

Especially with how loaded the conference is at present.



I don't think people are going to be shocked if LSU doesn't finish better than 10th in the conference or not make any postseason. I just think most would argue that the gap between LSU and about 4 other teams in this conference is not as far as the board's consensus is. I really think the conference has 8-9 teams that are NCAA teams, but then there's a dropoff of teams that LSU can play with. plus I think there's a few NCAA teams in the conference that have phenomenal rosters and average coaching, where LSU can steal a win or two


long story short the board seems to think LSU is going to be utter dogshit, but we have an impressive coach who kept all of our players worth a shite and flipped the roster with a top 20 class plus transfers. we'll lose a lot but scare the shite out of a lot of teams
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:47 pm
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Member since May 2006
29120 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I've been saying for a couple months now that even just 2-3 years ago I would have felt without a doubt confidence that Auburn's current roster would make the NCAA Tournament. I think our team now has more overall talent a depth top to bottom than our 2003 team that went to the Sweet 16 and lost by 1 to Carmelo Anthony's national championship Syracuse team... But this league is loaded right now. I think there's still a better than not chance we make it, but it's going to be a struggle and it's definitely no sure thing.






I have to admire your patience, but you and other Auburn fans have every right to be furious if Auburn does not go dancing this season. Pearl has had plenty of time and gets to recruit out of an awesome facility, plus he's paid a handsome salary.

To be fair if Johnny Jones were at LSU still, recruiting at Pearl's level right now, and Johnny still hadn't made the tournament, you guys would be calling us fricking idiots for not expecting to go dancing right now
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:01 pm to
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time it takes than they thought to rebuild a last place basketball team


LSU didn't finish in last place.

And Trent Johnson won an SEC title in his first season.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:14 pm to
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LSU didn't finish in last place.


You were tied for last.

2-16 in SEC is beyond last place most years. Y'all were literally minutes away from the worst SEC basketball team in 50 years.... So Your little moral victory about "not sole possession of last!" is actually a bit sad

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And Trent Johnson won an SEC title in his first season


He inherited a roster that was much better than even what Wade had built up already for LSU.
Your program right now is a dumpster fire, Johnson inherited a still viable program two years removed from a Final Four that still had some NBA caliber talent.

Johnson also just won the NIT with TCU.... LSU is in no shape to talk shite about him or his coaching... the exact opposite actually.
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Member since May 2006
29120 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:26 pm to
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You were tied for last.

2-16 in SEC is beyond last place most years. Y'all were literally minutes away from the worst SEC basketball team in 50 years.... So Your little moral victory about "not sole possession of last!" is actually a bit sad




I'm not sure why he said that either. Agreed.


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He inherited a roster that was much better than even what Wade had built up already for LSU



agreed.


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Your program right now is a dumpster fire



we just brought in a top 20 class and highly likely will have a top 5 class this season. we're not an NCAA team, but dumpster fire is probably way too hyperbolic to describe LSU's current state.


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Johnson also just won the NIT with TCU.... LSU is in no shape to talk shite about him or his coaching... the exact opposite actually.



Jamie Dixon is TCU's coach, who is 50x the coach trent johnson is. LSU has plenty of reason to talk shite about trent johnson. he was lazy as frick and left LSU in far worse shape than he got it. you could make a very sound case for arguing Johnny Jones did a much better job with LSU than Trent did.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:40 pm to
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recruiting at Pearl's level right now,
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Pearl has had plenty of time


This is where the general public is a little ignorant of the situation.

A) Pearl hasnt had as much time as you think. He wad still under a show cause when we hired him. He didn't come off until right before the first season began. He couldn't contact recruits before that. So whatever time you think Pearl has had to build, go ahead and take 1 year off that.

B) people seem to also be inflating how well he had actually recruited. By Auburn's pre-Pearl standards it's a whole new world for us, sure.

But in reality the first 2 recruiting classes Pearl essentially had to rely heavily in JUCO and transfers to even field a roster. Pearl inherited 1 single player worth an SEC scholarship. By year 2 with Pearl there was literally 1 scholarship player in the rotation left over from the Barbee era. The term rebuilding when talking about what Pearl did at AU is not just an expression, it is 100% accurate.

The first class was ranked #36 overall. Only the last two have been top 15, and Pearl has not yet had the luxury of a top 10 class. So while recruiting has been solid, it's not world beating recruiting.

And again, because the first two classes were heavy in JUCO and transfers to make sure we had enough players to field a team, that means that only the last two classes Pearl has been able to focus on bringing in the highly rated HS prospects that he wants and can develop how he wants.
Meaning this season is really the first that the whole team his really his talent. This is the first season that we've had quality depth to where we don't have to play walkons in the regular rotation and single injuries won't doom the entire team.


Pearl has also improved our SEC record all 3 years, so its not like he hasn't shown us something each year to build our hope further


We're you questioning Carolina fans patience with Martin before this season? Their program was coming from nearly an identical place as Auburn's, and Martin and Pearls first 3 seasons were nearly identical. Martin is two seasons ahead in the process though so its a good thing Carolina fans kept the patience since this is the first year he took them to the NCAA.

First three years for Pearl and Martin neither one made any post season.
Year 1: both went 4-14 in SEC
Year 2: both improves to 5-13 in SEC play
Year 3: Martin went 17-16 (6-12) while Pearl went 18-14 (7-11)

In year 4 Martin went 25-9 (11-7) and made the NIT... don't be surprised for AU and Pearl to continue to nearly identically mirror that same progression
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