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re: LSU is your defense better than last years
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:29 am to LuckyTiger
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:29 am to LuckyTiger
The secondary looks to have some stars in it. The interceptions on Saturday night were really good plays and we were missing RR. Also, the coaches have said that Jamal Adams is awesome (but it was just his first game as a true freshman).
LBs looks about the same (unimpressive), but Kwon looks much better and could make a difference.
The D-line did not play well against Wisconsin for most of the game, but we were missing some guys in our rotation. Hunter shows flashes at times...same with Rasco - he finished the season well last year with with a bunch of tackles and a forced fumble/recovery in the last regular season game along with four tackles and two batted down passes against Iowa in the bowl win. That's the unit we really need to see consistency from. I don't know enough about the new guys yet on the D-line.
So it's a little early to say at this point since we had a few guy's missing. If the DL doesn't play better than they played for most of the game, it will be about the same or not as good as last year. If they step it up, it could be a very tough D to face.
LBs looks about the same (unimpressive), but Kwon looks much better and could make a difference.
The D-line did not play well against Wisconsin for most of the game, but we were missing some guys in our rotation. Hunter shows flashes at times...same with Rasco - he finished the season well last year with with a bunch of tackles and a forced fumble/recovery in the last regular season game along with four tackles and two batted down passes against Iowa in the bowl win. That's the unit we really need to see consistency from. I don't know enough about the new guys yet on the D-line.
So it's a little early to say at this point since we had a few guy's missing. If the DL doesn't play better than they played for most of the game, it will be about the same or not as good as last year. If they step it up, it could be a very tough D to face.
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:51 am to Colonel Flagg
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After Gordon's big run to start the 3rd quarter, they had 32 yards on 13 carries to finish the game.
Sure but Gordon only got two of those touches, if I'm not mistaken. Again, this is more or less inexplicable on the part of UW.
But I also give credit to our front seven for finally buckling down and stuffing Gordon a couple times.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:53 am to KG5989
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Herron wasn't suspended. Godchaux jumped him and got the snaps over him.
This is my biggest question. Where the hell was Frank Herron?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:54 am to justausedcarguy
Yes
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:57 am to bfniii
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people need to stop with the "why didn't they keep handing off to Gordon." when they tried to run, lsu shut it down
Why? It is true. We stuffed Gordon twice and they sidelined him. If you think this is LSU "shutting it down" then I don't know what to tell you. Seems like UW got away from their gameplan, and started playing to our strengths, instead.
But see it however you want to see it. P&G glasses, and all that. I already said I give credit to LSU for stopping Gordon. Just figured we'd have to do it more than twice. Thanks to Gary Anderson for the assist on that score.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:05 am to TxTiger82
Two rumors:
1. Gordon was hurt on the long run in the 3rd
2. Gordon got into it with his position coach and got benched
1. Gordon was hurt on the long run in the 3rd
2. Gordon got into it with his position coach and got benched
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:16 am to graychef
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1. Gordon was hurt on the long run in the 3rd
Have heard this one. But I think Gordon said he was fine after the game?
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2. Gordon got into it with his position coach and got benched
Have heard he is not the most "coachable" player, so this wouldn't surprise me. Even still, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to start chewing out the best player on your team who is the primary reason you are winning the game. If the position coach benched him, that position coach should probably be fired.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:26 am to TxTiger82
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2. Gordon got into it with his position coach and got benched
Yeah, I think he may have gotten injured because they were kicking our azzes and he was running all over us. I'm not sure what there would have been to fight about.
Coaches and players are ridiculously sensitive about reporting injuries these days. Half the time they just deny any injuries and then you hear about the issues after the season. The reporter should have said, "So your coaches are just morons then for not giving you the ball, right?"
Posted on 9/1/14 at 1:54 pm to bfniii
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people need to stop with the "why didn't they keep handing off to Gordon." when they tried to run, lsu shut it down
This is patently wrong. Another poster covered this best so I'll quote him here:
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He got the first carry of the half and went for 63 yards. Then he got a 4 yarder and a 3 yarder. That's it before we took the lead. So to repeat, Gordon gets 2 carries between them going up 24-7 and us taking the lead 28-24.
We never really stopped their running game. Fortunately, their coaches did that for us.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:16 pm to LuckyTiger
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We never really stopped their running game. Fortunately, their coaches did that for us.
4th quarter
1st and 10 at WIS 35 Melvin Gordon run for 3 yds to the Wisc 38
2nd and 7 at WIS 38 WISCONSIN Penalty, False Start (Sam Arneson) to the Wisc 33
2nd and 12 at WIS 33 Tanner McEvoy pass intercepted Jalen Mills return for no gain to the LSU 47
Cameron Gamble kickoff for 65 yds for a touchback Wisc 24 LSU 28
1st and 10 at WIS 25 Corey Clement run for 3 yds to the Wisc 28
2nd and 7 at WIS 28 Corey Clement run for 3 yds to the Wisc 31
3rd and 4 at WIS 31 Corey Clement run for 5 yds to the Wisc 36 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at WIS 36 Tanner McEvoy pass complete to Austin Traylor for 9 yds to the Wisc 45
2nd and 1 at WIS 45 Corey Clement run for 3 yds to the Wisc 48 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at WIS 48 Tanner McEvoy pass incomplete to Reggie Love
2nd and 10 at WIS 48 Tanner McEvoy pass incomplete to Kenzel Doe
3rd and 10 at WIS 48 Tanner McEvoy pass intercepted Ronald Martin return for 8 yds to the LSU 31
1st and 10 at WIS 10 Melvin Gordon run for a loss of 2 yards to the Wisc 8 24 28
2nd and 12 at WIS 8 Tanner McEvoy pass incomplete to Sam Arneson
3rd and 12 at WIS 8 Tanner McEvoy pass incomplete to Sam Arneson
4th and 12 at WIS 8 Drew Meyer punt for 57 yds, downed at the LSU 35
That's Wisconsins only 3 drives in the 4th quarter. Two of which came while Wisconsin was trailing by 4.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:17 pm to Jma313
don't be too cocky!the only reason that ya'll scored point's is because of the team that yall played against 
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:20 pm to TxTiger82
quote:again, wisc tried to run between the tackles in the 2nd half and it failed miserably. it wouldn't have mattered who they were handing off to. watch the 2nd half again.
If you think this is LSU "shutting it down" then I don't know what to tell you
quote:what I said is a fact, not an opinion.
But see it however you want to see it
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:22 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:good grief. watch the 2nd half again. after Gordon's long run on the first drive, they got nothing between the tackles. why is this so hard to understand?
We never really stopped their running game
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:23 pm to bfniii
if wisc and lsu play this week, lsu wins by 21.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:25 pm to justausedcarguy
If we play like second half LSU the rest of the season, yes.
If we play like first half LSU the rest of the season no.
the secondary is sick thought.
If we play like first half LSU the rest of the season no.
the secondary is sick thought.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:28 pm to LuckyTiger
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We never really stopped their running game. Fortunately, their coaches did that for us.
@BadgerFootball: Melvin Gordon: My hip injury happened on my last run before halftime. I was ready to go, but they were looking out for what's best for me.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:35 pm to KG5989
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Herron wasn't suspended. Godchaux jumped him and got the snaps over him.
We didn't play Herron because someone jumped him, we played a total of 3 DTs, we obviously NEVER want to do that unless forced to.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:43 pm to DamnStrong1860
The LSU D looked very very fast to me. The secondary closes quickly and hits hard.
They look a touch weak in the Dline.
Will still be stout as hell. Can't wait for the TAMU/LSU game
They look a touch weak in the Dline.
Will still be stout as hell. Can't wait for the TAMU/LSU game
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:46 pm to justausedcarguy
The secondary is an embarrassment of riches. Talented and deep. There will be backups on this squad who get drafted and make NFL rosters, like Ron Brooks did in 2012 (4th round).
The linebackers will be better than last year, though not a great group overall.
Defensive tackle was the biggest question mark before the game, and it's the biggest question mark now. Out of our three best DTs, one didn't play because of a suspension, and another started and played with a torn bicep (the docs have cleared him to play through the pain). Out of our next two DTs, one was suspended for the game and the other played as a true freshman. So, we didn't get very good play from the DTs, but it's hard to know how they will play as the season goes on.
Our DEs are lean and built to rush the passer more than to stop the run.
Bottom line: nobody is throwing the ball on us this year, but real concerns remain about our ability to stop the run. To have a chance to make the playoff, I'm less worried about passing teams like A&M and more worried about Alabama and Georgia (assuming that we met them in the title game).
The linebackers will be better than last year, though not a great group overall.
Defensive tackle was the biggest question mark before the game, and it's the biggest question mark now. Out of our three best DTs, one didn't play because of a suspension, and another started and played with a torn bicep (the docs have cleared him to play through the pain). Out of our next two DTs, one was suspended for the game and the other played as a true freshman. So, we didn't get very good play from the DTs, but it's hard to know how they will play as the season goes on.
Our DEs are lean and built to rush the passer more than to stop the run.
Bottom line: nobody is throwing the ball on us this year, but real concerns remain about our ability to stop the run. To have a chance to make the playoff, I'm less worried about passing teams like A&M and more worried about Alabama and Georgia (assuming that we met them in the title game).
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