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re: LSU is there only program over the last 12 years not to finish outside top 25
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:22 pm to TigerFan4040
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:22 pm to TigerFan4040
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Aggie and Mizzou trying to talk shite
This is a bizarre phenomenon that I think exists only in SECr world.
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:45 pm to thunderbird1100
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Yeah you're a bit off
From 2001-2011 - Finished Top 10 7 times in 11 seasons, 6 in 9 seasons from 2003-2011
From 2012-2016 - Finished Top 10 0 times in 5 seasons
Why start at 2001? I started at 2000 (Saban's first year at LSU) and ended in 2016 (most recent season). I looked at the final AP & Coach's Poll for every season and found:
6 times LSU finished in top 10 in either or both polls.
7 times LSU finished 15th or lower in either or both polls (including 4 seasons unranked).
4 times finished ranked between 11 - 14
Again, LSU finishing outside of the top 10 is the case more often than finishing inside, which I only brought up in response to the poster saying LSU was "used to being 1-10".
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Almost too easy to see the trend there
Agree 100%. LSU finished inside the top 10 at end of 4 seasons between 2000 - 2007 and only 2 seasons after. Looks like when Saban recruited players were gone and Les was on his own without training wheels, he crashed the bike.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:54 pm to bamasgot13
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Why start at 2001? I started at 2000 (Saban's first year at LSU) and ended in 2016 (most recent season). I looked at the final AP & Coach's Poll for every season and found:
6 times LSU finished in top 10 in either or both polls.
7 times LSU finished 15th or lower in either or both polls (including 4 seasons unranked).
4 times finished ranked between 11 - 14
Again, LSU finishing outside of the top 10 is the case more often than finishing inside, which I only brought up in response to the poster saying LSU was "used to being 1-10".
Your information was incorrect and I was correcting you.
Again, LSU finished Top 10 SEVEN times, not 5 times or 6 times from 2001-2011. That's an 11 year span of Saban/early Miles. From 2003-2011, 6 times in 9 seasons. After the 2011 season, we haven't finished Top 10 the last 5 seasons, so again, pretty easy to see why Miles was fired. We were used to being Top 10 more times than not previously. 6/9 times from 2003-2011, 7/11 times from 2001-2011. Precedent was set, Miles blew it up in the second half of his tenure because he couldn't do what we had been doing a lot for around a decade previous to 2012.
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And if it was just "Saban's players", then how did Les manage to finish Top 10 in 2010 and 2011 with zero guys saban recruited on the roster? this was always a dumb argument. Our recruiting actually improved under Miles vs. Saban. It was a matter of poor coaching, not talent.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:54 pm to CapstoneGrad06
And weren't y'all beaten last game by a WR coach who became an interim coach before head coach?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:56 pm to bamasgot13
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LSU finished inside the top 10 at end of 4 seasons between 2000 - 2007 and only 2 seasons after.
Wow. I hadn't realized that.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:57 pm to GermantownTiger
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LSU is there only program
Cajunese?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:08 pm to xenythx
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So why'd you fire Les then?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:09 pm to thunderbird1100
Les came to LSU with the offensive philosophy that he had the bigger and better players, so he was going to line up, tell you he was going to run the ball and dare you to stop it. That worked pretty well against most teams and made for good games against real good teams that could match us in talent. Then as teams got equal or better talent, that offense just didn't work anymore. He kept thinking is should and would, but against teams that were built to stop the run, it just never did anymore. If he would have developed a QB or had a plan in place to throw the ball when the run wasn't working, then he'd still have his job. But for some reason he was completely stuck to his way of doing it and it just wasn't working...
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:52 pm to GermantownTiger
Print the shirts and hang the banner.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:56 pm to GermantownTiger
at Boise State finishing first in 2010. They didn't even finish undefeated in the MWC while Auburn remained unblemished in an SEC West that finished with five teams in the top fifteen. Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:35 pm to GermantownTiger
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LSU (best: first in 2011; worst: 24th in 2008)
Your ratings are highly suspect if they had us in the top 25 in 2008 or 2014.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 4:22 am to TigerTalker16
quote:In his first game after being promoted to Head Coach after Les Miles got the ax, that DL Coach beat Missouri 42-7.
And they promoted their D-Line coach to head coach expecting better results.
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