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re: LSU football will surprise a lot of people this fall

Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:55 am to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:55 am to
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They're going to get a MAJOR upgrade at QB this year. Jeremy Johnson will be a household name from day 1. And if you're talking about losing role players, LSU lost a bunch too. Both DEs, LT, C, etc.


He only played meaningful time in one game last year, which was the first game of the year against an Arkansas team that was much better later on in the year.

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There is nothing to show that LSU will be improved in the passing game.


I'm cautiously optimistic based on spring ball.

Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25188 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:58 am to
If, and it is a big if, LSU is improved on offense and doesn't take a step back on defense then they are a real threat to win the West next year. They have the talent. Until we actually see signs of that offensive improvement however I'm a bit wary of crowning them the SEC King in waiting.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24382 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:00 am to
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He only played meaningful time in one game last year, which was the first game of the year against an Arkansas team that was much better later on in the year.


And we're expecting Jennings to get some new magical physical abilities or for Harris to take over. We're in the same boat. Auburn will commit to their running game more so than LSU will and they'll have a freaking Cam Newton clone running from the QB position. That offense is going to be a nightmare again.


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I'm cautiously optimistic based on spring ball.


Fool me once............... or 3 times..........
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:03 am to
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And we're expecting Jennings to get some new magical physical abilities or for Harris to take over. We're in the same boat.


No doubt. A little improvement could go a long ways for us, though. And let's not forget the strides our running game made last year.

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Auburn will commit to their running game more so than LSU will and they'll have a freaking Cam Newton clone running from the QB position.


I disagree. I think Auburn will more one dimensional than last year. Marshall was a legit 4.3 guy with elusiveness. Plus they had a WR who could take the top off a defense with ease (Coates). Auburn will have neither luxury this year. Johnson is mobile but not elusive. Williams is a hot-cold player who lacks top-end speed.
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:04 am to
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Really? You think our defense will be ranked outside the top 100 next year? I would love to make that sig bet.


I can absolutely garuntee lsu's defense will be ranked higher than a&ms once again next year
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:14 am to
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I think we start 7-1 with another arse raping from State


That won't happen two years in a row and yall lost a ton of important people.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5481 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:15 am to
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No way quarterback is that bad again!
Without some evidence to substantiate this, or any of your assertions, you are simply whistling in the dark walking past the graveyard.
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The Buga pain train at Rb
...is one play and injury away from being derailed. This applies to every player at every SEC team, now and forever,world without end, amen. Thanks be to the football gods that the Tigers usually have considerable depth at key positions.
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our slot receiver would start at any team in the SEC!
Many of which have competent Qb play of a kind we have yet to demonstrate.
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The defense will be improved,

Possibly, but it needs to start strong and improve rather than wander in the wilderness in the early goings and then all of a sudden wake up when the season is virtually in the shiter.
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LSU will finishi in the top two in the SEC west!
All of this for that...

If we're going to go that far, let's just say we're going to finish first ahead of either Auburn or Arkansas, pound Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl and beat either USC or Notre Dame in the NCG.

I mean really, who knows what is going to happen. Look at last season.

A&M beat a vastly overrated South Carolina which artificially inflated their rankings as well as the ratings of the teams which almost immediately began beating them, sank back to their customary level of play and then beat Auburn.

Ole Miss beat Alabama with a Petersonesque interception ruled inbound and NOT overturned by SEC officiating subsequently inflating artificially the Rebel's ranking. The Rebels, exhibiting misplaced, ill-fitting and unfamiliar hubris, subsequently are beaten by LSU in Death Valley, 10-7, only to rise again and pound Mississippi State to pulp in the Egg Bowl.

Arkansas narrowly gets beaten by Mississippi State and Alabama, destroys LSU by 17 unanswered points and turns around the next week and nearly doubles the unanswered points beating Ole Miss 30-0.

Then there is Kentucky...., I like Mint Juleps and Derby Day and their football coach. I don't know, why not Kentucky?

Post season, Alabama did what has become something of a recent Tide tradition and lost the Sugar Bowl. LSU looses to Notre Dame and the SEC East upholds SEC honor in the bowls.

We and everybody else in the West looked terrible at times and great at others. Who the frick knows except Vegas?
Posted by jbrau22
Waco, TX
Member since Jun 2007
2134 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:17 am to
I honestly think I would have enjoyed being an Aggy if I didn't hate y'all so bad...something my dad instilled in me...sorry bro. But the passion you guys have and your traditions remind me of LSU in certain ways
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:23 am to
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And LSU comes to the conclusion to let the guy go who runs the defense???

Then LSU hires Kevin Steele??? wtf

For years, LSU has been telling everybody, it's just not enough to have the players, you have to have great coaches that can "coach 'em up". Kevin Steele? lulz


Did I ever mention our offense was good? thought so. Chavis is a strategist who plays containment D. Without good players, his defense doesnt work. Even though it was a top10 D, our defense lacked intensity last year and they were really young. Steele and Orgeron bring that intensity and our defense next year will be more balls to the wall and energetic than it has in the past.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24382 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:28 am to
Look, I'm as nervous as the next guy about the Steele hire but man oh man if it works out. We have a ton of talent on defense right now with plenty more coming on campus this fall and in the next few years. If he can get his shite together as a play caller we'll be fine. His other stints as a DC is definitely something to be worried about though.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:29 am to
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the defense will not finish in the top 10 in the nation like it's done the past couple years.


you are spreading misinformation. our defense was awful in '13 and pretty damn bad in '14. the '14 class, the one that was statistically rated high (in the avg yds given up category) got butt stomped in 4 games. FOUR games. and we lost 5.

sure, our offense played bad in three of those butt stompings but the game was over in the second quarter in two of them due to our "highly" rated D not being able to even slow them down.

but just believe what you want to if it makes you feel better.
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:29 am to
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If he can get his shite together as a play caller we'll be fine


That will be the key. We know steele and O will be great at recruiting and coaching the fundamentals but I have a good feeling the playcalling and game plans wont be too bad. Our secondary is still going to be lock down and I think our D-line and LBers will be more aggressive and make a lot more plays in the backfield than they did with Chavis's containment D. But from watching the spring game, I think next years team will be pretty special
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 11:30 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:53 am to
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I can absolutely garuntee lsu's defense will be ranked higher than a&ms once again next year


Well sure, that isn't going out on a limb at all. Heck as long as Sumlin is around LSU's defense will always be better by some degree, our offense isn't conducive to a bad arse a defense.

But we will have a top 70 defense next year.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:56 am to
A&M's def will never have great stat totals, simply by the nature of increased possessions.

Totals don't matter though, only efficiency metrics. W/L's basically come down to Points per possession for offense and defense.

I would be worried about Kevin Steele's issues against the spread (which he's had at every stop in his career).

You're looking at A&M, Ole Miss, Miss State, and Auburn every year. He'd better figure it out.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:08 pm to
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Totals don't matter though, only efficiency metrics


Or just wins.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24382 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:21 pm to
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I would be worried about Kevin Steele's issues against the spread (which he's had at every stop in his career).

You're looking at A&M, Ole Miss, Miss State, and Auburn every year. He'd better figure it out.


Well, in that case, you might want to take a look at what those offenses did to LSU's defenses the last few years minus A&M. And LSU had much better talent on the roster. A&M's offense will certainly not be like the shite fest LSU has put out but they better be able to keep up because Chavis' defense will give you heartburn a lot of the time.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:24 pm to
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Marshall was a legit 4.3 guy
I think you mean 4.54. Not that it matters.
Posted by gstiger2233
Gulf Shores
Member since Dec 2014
346 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:12 pm to
We upgraded at QB, and RB we lost our fastest wide receiver Duke is our best and our O line will be fine. Not saying we will win Lsu is no push over team and at home they are very dangerous, but your points are just dumb
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:14 pm to
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Well, in that case, you might want to take a look at what those offenses did to LSU's defenses the last few years minus A&M. And LSU had much better talent on the roster. A&M's offense will certainly not be like the shite fest LSU has put out but they better be able to keep up because Chavis' defense will give you heartburn a lot of the time.


Y'all had the best defense in the SEC last year. What the hell are y'all smoking.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24382 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Y'all had the best defense in the SEC last year. What the hell are y'all smoking.


That's not really saying much.

MSU - L Gave up 570 yards and 34 points.
AU - L Gave up 566 yards and 41 points.
OM - W Had their number that day. Year before: 525 yards in a loss.
A&M - W But that's not anything new. Winning and shutting down that offense.
ND - L 449 yards and 31 points.
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