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re: LSU Fans: What made the difference in your defense?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:32 am to Statestreet
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:32 am to Statestreet
quote:I was going to say this, but it has already been said..
Preparation for Oregon has made this a better defense.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:33 am to DaleDenton
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The schedule.
The toughest teams they have faced have all defeated themselves by turning the ball over or missing field goals.
My moron detector just went off.
You clearly know nothing about football.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:34 am to bigbowe80
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Vanderbilt says hello... wait a minute they were not good though nevermind.
As your fellow LSU fans have pointed out in this thread, injuries can make your defense look a lot worse than it is. we were a depleted team against Vandy. Our defense is much better than what we showed against them due to injuries.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:36 am to ocelot4ark
Your QB should have had 5-6 interceptions in the vanderbilt game. 2-3 of those should have been returned for TD's if vandy could catch.
We won't drop those
We won't drop those
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:38 am to DaleDenton
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The toughest teams they have faced have all defeated themselves by turning the ball over or missing field goals.
Because turnovers create themselves, and also forcing long field goals has nothing to do with defense
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:40 am to musick
ANDDD the majority of them will be back next year...good time to be a Tiger fan!
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:41 am to ocelot4ark
quote:Yes I do - you are a child.
You don't understand.
quote:Don't know - don't care. Has nothing to do with this thread.
If I come on here and post a thread that says, "Arkansas' defense is still a question mark. We've had to deal with tons of in juries."
Do you think anyone, specifically LSU fans, would be willing to concede that point? Of course not.
quote:Yes, a huge one.
I'm a dumbass?
quote:Oh, I get it. It spelled out. It's still dumb as frick.
You've failed to comprehend any of this.
quote:Great - go post in them.
You can't find an Arkansas defense/LSU Offense thread that doesn't throw out the number of points we surrendered to Bama, A&M, etc, etc. Are you new here? Have you not seen that?
quote:I would say nice try if it were.
To special people. It's okay. We're all proud that you figured out a computer.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:53 am to ocelot4ark
I think Chief has the players to run his ideal defense. And when you look at the depth chart, it ain't a one-year deal:
Defensive End
KeKe Mingo - So.
Defensive Tackle
Bennie Logan - So.
Defensive Tackle
Michael Brockers - So.
Defensive End
Sam Montgomery - So.
Weakside Linebacker (WILL)
Ryan Baker - Sr.
Middle Linebacker (MIKE)
Kevin Minter - So.
Strongside Linebacker (SAM)
Stefoin Francois - Sr.
Cornerback
Mo Claiborne - Jr. (gone after this year)
Free Safety
Eric Reid - So.
Strong Safety
Brandon Taylor - Sr.
Cornerback
Tyrann Mathieu - So.
Other valuable contributors:
Tharold Simon - So.
Craig Loston - So.
Ron Brooks - Sr.
Anthony Johnson - Fr.
Josh Downs - Jr.
Four Seniors and one Junior, who'll go first round this year (Claiborne).
Those valuable contributors are the ones that step in when someone goes down or gets suspended and then they make the plays.
LSU has recruited well for Chief's defense scheme. Louisiana is a state with plenty of quality athletes to run a speed defense. Chief has put these guys in positions to succeed.
Defensive End
KeKe Mingo - So.
Defensive Tackle
Bennie Logan - So.
Defensive Tackle
Michael Brockers - So.
Defensive End
Sam Montgomery - So.
Weakside Linebacker (WILL)
Ryan Baker - Sr.
Middle Linebacker (MIKE)
Kevin Minter - So.
Strongside Linebacker (SAM)
Stefoin Francois - Sr.
Cornerback
Mo Claiborne - Jr. (gone after this year)
Free Safety
Eric Reid - So.
Strong Safety
Brandon Taylor - Sr.
Cornerback
Tyrann Mathieu - So.
Other valuable contributors:
Tharold Simon - So.
Craig Loston - So.
Ron Brooks - Sr.
Anthony Johnson - Fr.
Josh Downs - Jr.
Four Seniors and one Junior, who'll go first round this year (Claiborne).
Those valuable contributors are the ones that step in when someone goes down or gets suspended and then they make the plays.
LSU has recruited well for Chief's defense scheme. Louisiana is a state with plenty of quality athletes to run a speed defense. Chief has put these guys in positions to succeed.
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 10:56 am
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:54 am to AlxTgr
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AlxTgr
Instead of calling me names (true sign of ignorance), would you mind telling me WHY you think my premise is wrong? You're the only one that's giving me a hard time about it. That should tell you something.
Is your whole point that I shouldn't start one thread about LSU's defense and then turn it into a discussion about Arkansas' defense? Really? Thanks for the advice thread police, but it's my thread. I'll make observations based on the responses. Don't like it, shut up and move on.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:58 am to ocelot4ark
Didn't read the whole thread, but in my opinion it is Crowton being gone.
Our defense doesn't have to stay on the field the whole fricking game and get worn out. They also score in clutch times and give the defense momentum.
Second I think is Brad Wing. He routinely pins opponents offenses inside the 10.
Our defense doesn't have to stay on the field the whole fricking game and get worn out. They also score in clutch times and give the defense momentum.
Second I think is Brad Wing. He routinely pins opponents offenses inside the 10.
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 11:00 am
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:01 am to TheCaterpillar
We had serious talent last year on defense as well, minus Hatcher at safety. We just couldn't keep momentum like this year.
Also of course having Big Sam back and another year of experience for our DB's is huge.
Also of course having Big Sam back and another year of experience for our DB's is huge.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:05 am to ocelot4ark
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would you mind telling me WHY you think my premise is wrong?
Here:
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Is your whole point that I shouldn't start one thread about LSU's defense and then turn it into a discussion about Arkansas' defense?
quote:They know I've got this one.
You're the only one that's giving me a hard time about it.
quote:..and it's dumb as frick.
Thanks for the advice thread police, but it's my thread. I'll make observations based on the responses.
quote:We got to have some law...
Don't like it, shut up and move on.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:08 am to AlxTgr
Our defense was really good last year, but we lacked really good edge rushing, and Taylor getting nicked at the end of the year was really big. He is still a little under appreciated. Also, most of the key players are in their second or third year now and just continue to make strides. Eric Reid is a monster.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:12 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Here:
Does your vagina look like THIS:
l or - or /
Seriously, dude. Not one frick could be given about someone veering off topic. I imagine that the majority of threads on this board go off topic eventually.
Would you feel better if I edited the original post to include some mention of Arkansas so that no one else comes in here and sees any mention of any other team?
Or should I start ANOTHER thread, linking this one, to discuss my premise? Which one would satisfy your ridiculous notion of proper board etiquette?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:17 am to SammyTiger
There's no one reason why we are so much better. The OP is trying to make a point that Arkansas' defense is better than we think because they were decimated with injuries early in the year. Unfortunately, injuries are about 10% of the reason we are better. But every LSU fan has hit the nail on the head. Let me attempt to summarize:
1. Better offensive identity resulting in huge TOP favoring LSU
2. Special teams. 6 punt return yards on 40+ punts. Average starting field position is +15 yards LSU
3. 10-man DL. deepest in the nation. All equally talented for the most part
4. More experienced secondary. Eric Reid's development into the best safety in the nation. Mo Claiborne/Honey Badger superior athletes
5. One more year in Chavis' scheme.
6. Fundamental tackling--we do not give up big plays.
1. Better offensive identity resulting in huge TOP favoring LSU
2. Special teams. 6 punt return yards on 40+ punts. Average starting field position is +15 yards LSU
3. 10-man DL. deepest in the nation. All equally talented for the most part
4. More experienced secondary. Eric Reid's development into the best safety in the nation. Mo Claiborne/Honey Badger superior athletes
5. One more year in Chavis' scheme.
6. Fundamental tackling--we do not give up big plays.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:18 am to LSUzealot
The Arkansas D vs the MSU O looked like a battle of ineptitude to me.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:21 am to LSUzealot
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The OP is trying to make a point that Arkansas' defense is better than we think because they were decimated with injuries early in the year.
Pretty much. Not saying we're great. But we're not as horrible as we appear going off of stats. If anyone would understand the stats argument, it's you guys.
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Unfortunately, injuries are about 10% of the reason we are better.
And that was with just 1 or 2 guys, right? 10% of a change based on 1 or 2 guys. Arkansas had 5 starters missing at one point or another over that 5 or 6 games stretch. At the very worst I think it's reasonable to say that the Arkansas defense LSU will face on Friday is an unknown quantity.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:23 am to TulaneTigerFan
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The Arkansas D vs the MSU O looked like a battle of ineptitude to me.
A battle would assume that it was contested. I won't argue that MSU looked bad, but they were outmatched.
That's why I say Arkansas' defense is an unknown. They've played 4 games as a full, healthy unit. 2 against cupcakes and 2 against shitty offenses from the SEC.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:24 am to ocelot4ark
quote:If I had a vagina, I'd never leave the house.
Does your vagina look like THIS:
quote:This isn't a veer. It's a childish game.
Not one frick could be given about someone veering off topic.
quote:I feel fine actually.
Would you feel better if I edited the original post to include some mention of Arkansas so that no one else comes in here and sees any mention of any other team?
quote:No, never.
Or should I start ANOTHER thread
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:31 am to AlxTgr
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If I had a vagina, I'd never leave the house.
Admittedly, I
quote:
This isn't a veer. It's a childish game.
Remind me who started this childish game of thread policing, which has never happened in the 2+ years I've posted on the SEC Rant?
quote:
I feel fine actually.
Then why are you so bothered? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Are you trying to get a moderator job?
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