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re: LSU, Chavis and the Five Stages of Grief
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:45 pm to AgsNguyening
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:45 pm to AgsNguyening
1) third and long
2) quarterback draw
3) crossing routes
4) 4th quarter lead
5) two minute drill
2) quarterback draw
3) crossing routes
4) 4th quarter lead
5) two minute drill
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Yeah, it was Les Miles' offense propping up the LSU program the last six years.
Any decent DC we would have had could have put up good numbers given our talent and style of play.
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This has been thoroughly refuted with statistics multiple times on this very board.
Just because an aggie posts some flawed stat, that doesn't make it a fact
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:46 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Because I realized Tom Landry isn't dead.
You realized wrong. He's been dead longer than LSU fans have been paying attention to college football.
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And Lombardi was great at everything he did.
Which never included coaching a defense.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:47 pm to S
6) Jennings 76 yards in 26 attempts
7) games where QB passes for 76, 83, and 53 yards
7) games where QB passes for 76, 83, and 53 yards
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:47 pm to Guava Jelly
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But have you wondered why most (if not all) up tempo, high flying teams give up a lot of points? It's because defenses get tired because they're on the field more.
The LSUs and Bamas of the world have strong defenses because their offenses control the ball and the clock with the run game.
By nature of his offensive scheme even with a great defensive coordinator, Sumlin's teams will always give up more yards/points. Which is why the assumption that "Chavis just has to hold teams to x yards" is flawed.
The thing you're missing here is that you understand the game of football, whereas the average aggie doesn't.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
LSU, Chavis and the Ten Pages of Grief
The thread needs a new title
The thread needs a new title
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:50 pm to texag7
quote:Or 119 yards on 14 carries
Jennings 76 yards in 26 attempts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The thing you're missing here is that you understand the game of football, whereas the average aggie doesn't.
Says the guy who thinks Landry is still alive.
Oh, and stage three.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Just because an aggie posts some flawed stat, that doesn't make it a fact
By all means, point out the flaws:
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TOP actually does mean game clock, by definition. You can argue that it doesn't necessarily perfectly reflect the actual real time that passes, because the clock stops for injuries, penalties, incompletions and such. But TOP does measure who has the ball when the game clock is running.
I understand that teams with great defenses tend to have good TOP. But Chavis hasn't been one of them. At LSU or at Tennessee.
In 2009, LSU was ranked #107 in time of possession. Chavis still had the #26 Total Defense, and the #11 Scoring Defense.
A year later in 2010, LSU was #57 in TOP, while Chavis had the #12 Total D, and the #11 Scoring D.
Even during the great defense in 2011, LSU was only #26 in TOP.
In 2012 LSU TOP #46. Total D/ScoringD #8/#12
In 2013, LSU TOP: #57, Total D/Scoring D: #15/#21
In 2014, LSU TOP: #9, Total D/Scoring D: #9/#5
LSU had elite TOP in just ONE season of Chavis' tenure.
Also, let's take a look at how Chavis did at Tennessee.
In 2008, the Vols had the #3 Total Defense, and the #10 Scoring Defense. What was their TOP ranking? #98
In 2007, their TOP ranking was even worse, at #103, but Chavis still finished 70/61 in Total/SCoring D.
2006 - TOP #105, Total D/Scoring D #50/#33
2005 - TOP #73, Total D/Scoring D #7/#16
And that's as far back as the NCAA website keeps the TOP stat.
His defensive rankings have ALWAYS outperformed his teams' TOP, often by huge margins. Point being, there is AMPLE evidence to suggest that Chavis isn't dependent on a ball control offense.
The numbers don't lie. The LSU offense, up until last year, just wasn't elite at running the clock. Maybe Fournette is the real deal, and LSU will continue to have equal or greater success. And maybe that will help out Steele. But Chavis has almost never had that kind of support from his offense. Not at Tennessee, and not at LSU. His defenses have always stood on their own.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:51 pm to Old Sarge
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We care more that Chavis helps up improve some.
Steele failing or succeeding will only matter to y'all
Our new defensive coordinator is talked about more by aggy than LSU fans.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:51 pm to Roger Klarvin
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You realized wrong.
You caught me in one mistake. I'm sure you'll savor it for years. Congratulations
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Which never included coaching a defense
He was good enough to be a head coach in both football and basketball, but couldn't handle being D/C at Texas A&M, eh
? Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:51 pm to texag7
8) still manage to push aggy's shite in further than the crew cut brigade can
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The thing you're missing here is that you understand the game of football, whereas the average aggie doesn't.
You thought Vince Lombardi was a DC, Tom Landry was still alive and LSU always had elite TOP during Chavis' tenure.
You're not exactly blowing this place up with knowledge
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:54 pm to Wild Thang
Why do all the other posters disrespect you so often Wild Thang?
And tell the truth, you were drunk as a skunk last night weren't you?
And tell the truth, you were drunk as a skunk last night weren't you?
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
Where did I say anything about time of possession? I said style of play and ball control offense. That means physicality, something Texas A&M doesn't have and will never have as long as Kevin Sumlin is the head coach.This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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never have as long as Kevin Sumlin is the head coach.
We've had the most physical offensive line in CFB 2 out of the last 3 years
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:58 pm to Old Sarge
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We've had the most physical offensive line in CFB 2 out of the last 3 years
You had a couple of Sherman players that were pretty good. You've gotten softer and softer every year he's been gone.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:58 pm to Old Sarge
If only yall would run the ball behind it...
Derp of a coach
Derp of a coach
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:01 pm to AgsNguyening
Have an upvote.
You rustled the frick out of their jimmies with this one.
You rustled the frick out of their jimmies with this one.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:01 pm to hg
Aggie melts are glorious.
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