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re: Lattimore's Draft Stock

Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by Dubosed
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:52 pm to
His talent jumps off the screen if you can't see it then you are either stupid or don't like the kid. Hopefully he recovers and has a great career.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:56 pm to
Parse what? His YPC? Eh. Getting him behind a better O-line would be a good start. Also, of his 38 rushing TDs, I'd say at least 25 of them were from less than 5 yards out. A lot of teams stacked the box against us because they know we don't/can't pass it much.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:57 pm to
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His talent jumps off the screen if you can't see it then you are either stupid or don't like the kid. Hopefully he recovers and has a great career.


Are you a savant? I said I've personally watched him run train on my team for years. Then I go look up his stats, and they aren't that great. That's what the topic was about.

How does an 88 yard game "jump off the screen" in your world?

We are talking about NFL talent, not "pretty good running back".

Noone is saying he sucks.

Are you a real Alabama fan or a Carolina fan that changed your preference for the NC?
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:59 pm to
Steve spurrier killed a kid!

Talking to guys who performed his surgery... He is effed on a nfl career. They say he can be a player, but that the idea that he may make a few years is hidden. They say that if he is used as a relief back, he will last longer. His stuff was torn up. But I believe modern tech has him ready by season start...but spurrier stole his money years. Thx Carolina!
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:01 pm to
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Steve spurrier killed a kid!

Talking to guys who performed his surgery... He is effed on a nfl career. They say he can be a player, but that the idea that he may make a few years is hidden. They say that if he is used as a relief back, he will last longer. His stuff was torn up. But I believe modern tech has him ready by season start...but spurrier stole his money years. Thx Carolina!



God I hope that was sarcasm. Both his serious injuries were due to the freak nature of his leg getting rolled up and twisted. Neither had to do with him being fatigued or overworked. Anyone could've had those injuries from 1 carry to 100.

FWIW when he got hurt vs UT that was 11th carry and when he got hurt vs MSU a year prior, on a play in which he didn't even have the ball, he had 17 carries in the 4th QT.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:03 pm to
Please don't respond to him. He is one of the worst posters on this board.
Posted by CockStrong
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:30 pm to
If he stayed healthy he would have had back to back to back 1000+ seasons.. the big thing is he hasn't had the time to improve and reach his potential bc of injuries. Bookmark this thread and we will see in 5 years
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:35 pm to
Considering that, if his surgeons said anything about his surgery, they could be seriously sued for a lot of money fro breach of privacy and have their license to practice taken away, I doubt that happened.

Actually, fatigue has a lot to do with soft tissue injuries. That is why most horses in horse racing break down at the end of races because the ligaments and tendons are fully stretched and fatigue will often cause bad foot placement. Also, soft tissue injuries have a whole lot to do with repetitive strain which is why every RB should go to the NFL as soon as they can and get whatever money they can. Come back for that degree. You will be able to afford it after your career is over on 4-5 years.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63929 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:39 pm to
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If he stayed healthy he would have had back to back to back 1000+ seasons.. the big thing is he hasn't had the time to improve and reach his potential bc of injuries. Bookmark this thread and we will see in 5 years



If I recall correctly, Dyer and Lattimore were freshmen at the same time, eyes were on who would be the better running back, especially since Latti dissed Auburn on signing day.

Again, if I recall correctly, Dyer had the better freshman year. I think Dyer and Latti met in the SECCG that year.

What if Dyer gets his shite together, gets back into a community college, maybe get another year back into big boy football at LSU or Alabama, or a desperate team like Tennessee or Florida, would his draft stock go up too?

What I mean is that if history and performance doesn't matter much, it's what you do today and tomorrow, then doesn't Dyer have the same chances at being a star running back in the NFL as Lattimore?

This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 10:42 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:41 pm to
What the frick?
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

Actually, fatigue has a lot to do with soft tissue injuries. That is why most horses in horse racing break down at the end of races because the ligaments and tendons are fully stretched and fatigue will often cause bad foot placement. Also, soft tissue injuries have a whole lot to do with repetitive strain

What the hell does this have to do with Lattimore's injury? His injuries were 100% freak injuries that could've happened to any player in the country.
I agree with the rest of your post that most guys should always try to go pro if they can. No Gamecock fans are upset he's leaving.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:45 pm to
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and get into business, like a car dealership, where his popularity would make him more money in the long run


I'd usually agree but for someone like him he can make a killing selling real estate or car in Columbia, degree or not if the NFL doesn't work out
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:53 pm to
He's an excellent pass catcher and blocker so he never needs to come off the field. He also has the best vision and cuts of any back you're likely to see.

As for is natural talent: just watch. People get hands on him yet he never goes down. He almost always makes it to the second level. He wears down opposing defenses and never appears to get tired.

Had he not been injured he would be the only RB taken in the first round of the draft.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63929 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:00 pm to
Lacy
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:05 pm to
Draft's are fluid, of course, but as of today Eddie Lacy is not a first rounder. The general consensus is that there are no first round backs in this class now that Lattimore is injured. Giovanni Bernard is likely to be first off the board.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:06 pm to
I think he will go in round 6-7 at best. Marginal running back before two severe injuries.


quote:

As for is natural talent: just watch. People get hands on him yet he never goes down. He almost always makes it to the second level.


Apparently he does go down, or out of bounds. He averaged under 5 ypc for his career, that would not even put him in the top 20 SEC RBs the last few years.

quote:

He almost always makes it to the second level.


See above statement, plus I believe he had very few long runs in comparison to other RBs.

quote:

He wears down opposing defenses and never appears to get tired.



His ypc are higher in the first half than the second half for his career.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63929 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:10 pm to
Mount Pleasant talk.
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:15 pm to
Mt Pleasant? I live on the peninsula.

As for bona fide:

You don't have to break long runs to get to the second level of the defense (esp not when they stack the box). And he rarely went down on first contact... his YPC would be indicative of that, sure, but wouldn't tell the whole story. I'm thinking more yards after contact. As for "marginal"... ha, you'd be hard pressed to find a scout in the country who'd agree w/ you but you're entitled to your opinion.
Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:19 am to
It's his run style that is so attractive. Not flashy by any means but rarely, if ever losses yards.. the blue-collar workman type back that falls forward every time for extra gains is what makes him appealing to the NFL. He personally reminds me of Jamaal Anderson the ways he runs low and bangs on defenders. But sadly a back like that leads to people tackling you low every time and you end your career with a bad knee(s). I wish him the best in the NFL and with most offenses using the RB by committee format.. hope he can hang long enough to get the contract that will make him and his family have a nice comfortable life when he retires.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8631 posts
Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:44 am to
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Marginal running back before two severe injuries.


Marginal on what standard? That's insane.
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