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re: Lane Kiffen to the 49ers as OC?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:53 am to circlerebel17
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:53 am to circlerebel17
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I became a fan because of Patrick Willis but he left and now the organization and me are having differing opinions and I am losing my allegiance
I forgot all about him retiring.
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:56 am to Othello
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No way in hell.
Yup. No way Lane Kiffen would leave the Southeast for the west coast. He bleeds crimson.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:58 am to Guitarcheese
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:58 am to Brunedog
this guy just absolutely has the life doesn't he?
-Successful college OC (with bush, white, leinart, those big tall WRs, etc)...gets NFL job
-miserable failure as NFL coach
-parlays "nfl experience" into college HC job. Barely goes .500, leaves after 1 season
-now still a college HC. Goes 28-15 before being fired
-back to college OC job. Does very well with nationally elite defenses at his back (not to mention a heisman winner, belietnicoff finalist, some of the best OLs in football, etc)
-now parlays that into potentially another NFL job
When will America learn? If you want lane kiffin on your staff, it better be in college and it better be as a coordinator. Anything above that and you're fricked.
-Successful college OC (with bush, white, leinart, those big tall WRs, etc)...gets NFL job
-miserable failure as NFL coach
-parlays "nfl experience" into college HC job. Barely goes .500, leaves after 1 season
-now still a college HC. Goes 28-15 before being fired
-back to college OC job. Does very well with nationally elite defenses at his back (not to mention a heisman winner, belietnicoff finalist, some of the best OLs in football, etc)
-now parlays that into potentially another NFL job
When will America learn? If you want lane kiffin on your staff, it better be in college and it better be as a coordinator. Anything above that and you're fricked.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:02 am to WG_Dawg
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miserable failure as NFL coach
lol Not Kiffin's fault.
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Barely goes .500, leaves after 1 season
He had Tennessee moving in the right direction and went 4-4 in the SEC that year. Not what you make it sound like.
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now still a college HC. Goes 28-15 before being fired
Fired too soon. USC would be in a lot better place right now if they would have waited out the sanctions, IMO.
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Does very well with nationally elite defenses at his back
Or carries that "nationally elite" defense in the NCG when they give up 40 points.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:04 am to circlerebel17
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and now the organization and me are having differing opinions
nobody likes Jed/Baalke but they at least had the decency to pay off Tomsula.
you don't sound like much of a fan
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:05 am to DynastyDawg
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Fired too soon. USC would be in a lot better place right now if they would have waited out the sanctions, IMO.
yeah I thought he did pretty well at USC considering
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:05 am to DynastyDawg
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lol Not Kiffin's fault.
he should have never been an NFL head coach to begin with, only reason he was is because of his dad.
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He had Tennessee moving in the right direction
and? He was still there 1 season and went 7-6 IIRC. Improved them 1 game from the previous season.
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Fired too soon. USC would be in a lot better place right now if they would have waited
nobody knows if that's true or not. He had 3 years and his bosses felt he deserved to be fired.
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Or carries that "nationally elite" defense in the NCG when they give up 40 points.
So you pick one game out of around 30 to prove a point? Answer me this...has alabama won more games the last 2 seasons on the back of their defense or offense? Right.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:05 am to Brunedog
GAWD NOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:06 am to Brunedog
Seems like a really bad fit.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:07 am to doghouse_4x4
Have we evolved from Saban to ... and have now reached Kiffin to ...?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:08 am to doghouse_4x4
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:20 am to Brunedog
Why on Earth would he go to San Francisco?
That seems like a terribly mismanaged organization.
That seems like a terribly mismanaged organization.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:24 am to higgs_boson
The guy is not leaving Saban unless it's for a HC gig
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:25 am to WG_Dawg
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he should have never been an NFL head coach to begin with, only reason he was is because of his dad.
So let me get this straight... It is Lane Kiffin's fault that senile Al Davis offered him the HC job of an NFL franchise? He should have said, what, no thank you?
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He was still there 1 season and went 7-6 IIRC.
Yeah because he was offered his dream job. I'm guessing he was supposed to say no thank you again? lol
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Improved them 1 game from the previous season.
Yeah and you know just as well as I do there was a completely different buzz around that program while he was there.
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nobody knows if that's true or not. He had 3 years and his bosses felt he deserved to be fired.
True. Definitely just my opinion.
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So you pick one game out of around 30 to prove a point?
No, there were plenty of instances.
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Answer me this...has alabama won more games the last 2 seasons on the back of their defense or offense? Right.
You need to go look. It's a lot closer split than you think.
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:30 am to WG_Dawg
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and? He was still there 1 season and went 7-6 IIRC. Improved them 1 game from the previous season.
Best win was a loss. No one fails upwards quite as good as Lane.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:33 am to therick711
He could have beat Florida but he kept it too conservative because he thought he might get blown out, he kept it close at like 7-10. I was so pissed at him in that game for being such a pussy. 2009 Florida was really great but Cooper was the only deep threat.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:36 am to DynastyDawg
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So let me get this straight... It is Lane Kiffin's fault that senile Al Davis offered him the HC job of an NFL franchise? He should have said, what, no thank you?
If you'll step back and read, I have never once blamed lane. I've blamed the industry for falling for this crap.
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this guy just absolutely has the life doesn't he?
-Successful college OC (with bush, white, leinart, those big tall WRs, etc)...gets NFL job
-miserable failure as NFL coach
-parlays "nfl experience" into college HC job. Barely goes .500, leaves after 1 season
-now still a college HC. Goes 28-15 before being fired
-back to college OC job. Does very well with nationally elite defenses at his back (not to mention a heisman winner, belietnicoff finalist, some of the best OLs in football, etc)
-now parlays that into potentially another NFL job
When will America learn?
I never said lane is wrong for getting these jobs, why wouldn't he accept them? I'm blaming other people (rather, the NFL and colleges who offer him a HC gig) for continuing to buy into it.
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Yeah because he was offered his dream job
and? The reasons behind it are irrelevant, the FACT is he was there for 1 season, barely broke even, then left.
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Yeah and you know just as well as I do there was a completely different buzz around that program while he was there.
yeah going from 5-7 to 7-6 was a real program changer.
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No, there were plenty of instances
Ok....again, was bama's success the last 2 seasons due more to the defense or offense? I can think of 2 games off the top of my head that bama won when the offense picked up the slack for a below average defense. I can't even count the number of times that bama could have had schottenheimer as OC and still won based on the strength of their defense.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:37 am to SammyTiger
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chip jelly
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:38 am to WG_Dawg
quote:Peter principle at its finest
When will America learn? If you want lane kiffin on your staff, it better be in college and it better be as a coordinator. Anything above that and you're fricked.
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