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re: Kirby's View of Transfers who want to Follow Richt to Miami

Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:55 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:55 am to
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"One of the reasons I put Miami on there was I wanted to set the precedent for the future, that kids would not be able to go to Miami right away," Smart said. "It's very important you understand that. That's pretty much standard operating procedure when a coach leaves one place, that a kid can't go there with the coach. That's important to me that people understand that."

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LISTEN UP!!
This is why Mo Smith can't transfer to Georgia! Every time I posted this, it went right over the top of a ton of mother frickers' heads. NOW, maybe you'll listen to the COACHES!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:57 am to
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If a UGA graduate wanted to follow Richt to Miami, Smart wouldn't be able to stop it.
But if he wanted to go to Alabama, you can bet your arse he would!...sound familiar?
Posted by IrrationalMeltdown
Member since Sep 2015
208 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:24 am to
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LISTEN UP!! This is why Mo Smith can't transfer to Georgia! Every time I posted this, it went right over the top of a ton of mother frickers' heads. NOW, maybe you'll listen to the COACHES


The kid graduated. If Georgia offers a graduate program that Alabama doesn't have he can play immediately per SEC rules. Saban can't do a thing about. He's just delaying paper work. This situation could have been handled better and you can't blame Saban for wanting to keep a possible starter/ key backup.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 10:26 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:37 am to
Really? Go read it again...and concentrate on the part that says SEC athletes transferring to "schools within the SEC".
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:44 am to
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May not be new but is certainly relevant to our discussions.


You mean the other two threads that are already multiple pages long about this.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19695 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:51 am to
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It's selfish. Why would anyone want to prevent a kid from doing what he feels is better for him?
there is not a coach in the sec, miles included, that is going to let a starter graduate transfer happen to an in conferrence school that you could very well play the next season, without sitting a year, to chase an assistant coach that they like. The scholarship is a 2 way street, and so far smith has gotten all the benefit from it, degree, national championship ring, world class coaching and training, and now just when bama is going to get some useful play out of him he wants to transfer to a team we might play in the sec championship? Nope. He can still transfer, he just has to sit
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28586 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:52 am to
How can a new coach tell players where they can and can't go? That's just fricked up.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:56 am to
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hypocrisy


Where is the hypocrisy from Smart? He hasn't even commented on the situation.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:01 am to
I think you're equating what a coach says and what fans think, which is an issue.

The fans want what is best for the school. Period. If the school and the team benefits, great. All for it. No fan will tell you different because we're all selfish.

We're going to support Smart in not wanting to set a precedent for players leaving for Miami. We're also going to want an Alabama player to come if he wants to. That's not hypocrisy because we're not making the rules. If it's best for our team, we want it.

Do you follow?
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:05 am to
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If a UGA graduate wanted to follow Richt to Miami, Smart wouldn't be able to stop it.


Just because they don't have to sit out a year does not mean they can come and go as they wish.

Graduate Transfer Are Not Free Agency

"Like all other transfers, graduate transfers need permission to contact another institution. If a coach denies permission to contact and it is upheld on appeal, the athlete cannot accept an athletic scholarship at a potential transfer destination."

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Posted by IrrationalMeltdown
Member since Sep 2015
208 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:31 am to
After reading up on it He can transfer and play BUT has to get permission from Saban bc it is within the SEC. This wouldn't be a big deal if Saban wouldn't have let Chris Black transfer to Missouri. Also the rules are SUPPOSED to be for the benefit of the student athlete. If there is a graduate program he wants to be in that is not offered by Bamma Saban should not hold him back. Saban is not doing what's best for the SUDENT ATHLETE. He's doing what's best for his football team.
Let the kid transfer. It's not like anyone else wants to leave a championship caliber team that's favored to win the national championship every year.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:42 am to
The SEC Coaches voted to enact this rule to begin with or else it wouldn't be and SEC rule.

Now, if it's such a big deal and it's an injustice to the student athlete, then they can vote again at next year's summer session and they can vote to remove the transfer rule within conference.

How many of y'all think the SEC Coaches will choose to allow graduates to transfer within the conference unobstructed?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:43 am to
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
2686 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:49 am to
Kirby knows you win with great players. He'll get plenty out of the state of Georgia and surrounding states because he's an exceptional recruiter.

He will also be more of an hard arse than Richt, but I believe that's what UGA fans want at the present time to see if it will push them to the top.

I doubt Kirby will speak publicly to denounce Saban for enforcing the SEC transfer rule.
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 3:32 pm to
No one said Smart was being hypocritical. The line of thinking other fan bases (Georgia) have is hypocritical.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 3:52 pm to
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No one said Smart was being hypocritical. The line of thinking other fan bases (Georgia) have is hypocritical.



I mean, we want what's best for our program. There's nothing hypocritical in that.

We support not having the floodgates open to Miami.

We would also like to have an Alabama transfer if he wants to come here.

Posted by Alapaha
Ellijay, GA
Member since Dec 2009
1477 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 6:44 pm to
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Look at all the Dawes rushing to defend Kirby. It is to laugh.


Although this was hard to read, but easily deciphered.

Now to my reply ... defending Kirby from what? As far as I know Kirby has nothing to do with the Smith/Saban situation, as he hasn't made any statement on the matter whatsoever. So there is nothing to defend him from ... am I right?
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 7:14 pm to
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"One of the reasons I put Miami on there was I wanted to set the precedent for the future, that kids would not be able to go to Miami right away," Smart said. "It's very important you understand that. That's pretty much standard operating procedure when a coach leaves one place, that a kid can't go there with the coach. That's important to me that people understand that."
Difference between Saban and Kirby in this instance is that Saban is a bitch and can't just admit the truth.

No one here isn't disagreeing with letting a guy transfer to a rival school or one with the potential to be good in the SEC (sorry MIZZ ). It is how Saban is just lying saying all this crap, when he should just be honest and say that it wouldn't be in the best interest of Bama to let these guys transfer to other SEC schools. Don't freakin say it is in the best interest of the kids, yada yada yada.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 7:18 pm to
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so the lesson they probably learn is "life's unfair when a rich white guy is involved in the decisions."


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