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re: Kevin Sumlin: Most overpaid coach in CFB?

Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by notabertfan
Middle of AR
Member since Nov 2013
669 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:08 pm to
Uh ... Hello.
Have you seen Berts wins per compensation. We have paid him over $12 million in 3 years for what we have.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1912 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:13 pm to
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I know, but its true. We get accused of little brothering for simply mentioning those frickers, but seriously. They pay him 5.1m. More that Sumlin for really shitty results. If there is a more overpaid coach in the CFB, please, give us a reason to not mention the frickers in Austin.


Simple question, would A&M have a better record than Texas if A&M had played UT's schedule to this point? Be careful, Texas has played 3 teams currently in the top 10, 1 in the top 15 and a Cal team that just dropped out of the Top 25 with a much younger 2 deep.

A&M has had much more time for Sumlin to "build" with his own recruits (you should be really able to see how big of a difference not having Sherman recruiting OL makes) and fill in any issues the previous coach left him. UT, not so much. That roster has a bunch of upperclassmen with MackBrown butterteeth AIDS and a bunch of FR starting.

This is not a melt on UT thread, this is a WTF Sumlin, do your damn job thread. This was should have been a year A&M could potentially challenge the big boys in the SEC W and so far it looks like this is going to be a 3 or 4 loss SEC schedule for A&M instead.

Let me guess.. Next year is the year it is all going to come together right?

Being inferior to Baylor or TCU right is just icing on the cake at this point. The coaching world is a fickle beast, you only really get 3 or 4 years to produce or you start to get called out. Strong isnt through 2 yet (and has already had some heat), and more than likely will begin to feel real heat this time next year if he isnt multiple games over .500. Sumlin is in year 4, and this should be the time to start seeing the success of his own recruits. Sumlin not getting it done and the constant over the top nature of the A&M fans on the Rant brought this on yourselves, and I dont see any fanbase that is going to willingly let up any time soon.

Posted by mikrit54
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Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:28 pm to
I guess I believed our schedule was better overall, but now, I don't know. We lost to a team that got boatraced by Memphis and went to OT with a team that lost to Toledo.

Bama lost to a not-so-great team. Auburn sucks this year. LSU is the only team that appears worth a shite, and they still have Bama, Arky, and Ole Miss left on the schedule.

I guess y'all are right. A&M would have more losses with that Big Twatever schedule.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:47 pm to
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I guess y'all are right. A&M would have more losses with that Big Twatever schedule.


You probably would. More than half the teams in the BIG XII have an offense as good as, or mostly better than, yours. Just like they did when you were here and you couldn't cut the mustard in this "weaker conference" for years. You brought the spread offense to the SEC and that's the only reason you ever had a good season there. We've had the spread in this league for YEARS, and you were never one of the better ones.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:52 pm to
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Sumlin not getting it done and the constant over the top nature of the A&M fans on the Rant brought this on yourselves, and I dont see any fanbase that is going to willingly let up any time soon.


My message board postings matter!!!
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:52 pm to
All trolling aside something is wrong with Texas A&M. It’s either conditioning, coaching (not X and O's), leadership, I don’t know. This is the second season in a row that team seriously regresses during the season.


The opponents were not world beaters but everyone has to admit A&M did play very well early in seasons. Last year against South Carolina was the most impressed I’ve ever been with A&M, and this year’s opening win against ASU was no slouch either; yet here we are again watching them faling to even be competitive against good but flawed teams. Allen, Trill, even Johnny Football to a lesser degree went from great to struggling. It is understanding dropping games to Bama and Ole Miss; but getting hammered especially against Ole Miss, just no excuse.
Posted by SHBlake79
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2008
1750 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:55 pm to
Very good post and troll at that! The only correction is that Sumlin is 3-1 vs. Miss St. and 2-1 vs. Auburn. Everything else is correct
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24386 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 12:56 pm to
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leadership


All joking aside, this is what it boils down to. Sumlin isn't the guy to lead a school like A&M.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 1:08 pm to
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All trolling aside something is wrong with Texas A&M. It’s either conditioning, coaching (not X and O's), leadership, I don’t know. This is the second season in a row that team seriously regresses during the season.


Maybe they should try scheduling tougher OOC competition earlier in the season and play actual home and away games instead of hiding out in the state of Texas for the first half of their season to develop mental toughness. Scheduling gimmickry harms a team's development.

Maybe they should stop relying on their dual threat QBs to provide the bulk of their "running game", learn to run block, and recruit backs that can pound the ball when they need to do so.

Maybe they should stop plowing through their QB roster in a desperate attempt to win and let their QBs grow up and develop as leaders.

Maybe they should actively recruit better defensive FOOTBALL players all around, especially in their backer units and their secondary, instead of flashy pass rushers and flashy offensive skill players who like everyone to know they have a douchey nickname they prefer to go by.

How about them apples?
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1912 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 1:10 pm to
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All joking aside, this is what it boils down to. Sumlin isn't the guy to lead a school like A&M.


Well that and their OL is one of the worst in the SEC at this point. Say what you want about the spread, but you still need the big boys up front to make it work and help provide balance via the running game. Sherman doesn't really get the credit he should for how good of an OL talent evaluator that dude was..

Put a better OL in front of A&M and things would be different this season. They dont have the talent at RB to be a real threat on every running play, but a good OL could mask that and allow for a bigger safety blanket on the 2nd and 3rd and medium. It is just that nobody really noticed how bad their OL was because they never played anyone and just now player their first true road game.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3236 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 7:25 pm to
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Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Kevin Sumlin: Most overpaid coach in CFB?


Absolutely.

Fulmer could deliver their current level of mediocrity for much less money.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 8:22 pm to
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A good non championship season every 8-10 years is about the most that program is capable o


This is stupid, r2d2. If Saban had gone there instead of LSU the shoe would be on the other foot. And some tamu idiot would be saying, "LSU hasn't won a championship in 56 years. It's what they are."
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 8:36 pm to
Texas A&M record
Big 12
2009 6-7
2010 9-4
2011 6-7
SEC
2012 11-2
2013 9-4
2014 8-5

Same shite different conference. I like Aggy though, they will figure it out.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 8:37 pm to
Bitch Jones vs Derek Dooley.

Dooley had a better record at this juncture.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 8:39 pm to
I always knew you were my favorite Tenn fan on here.
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
727 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 9:17 pm to
In terms of profit, a&m has done very well since sumlin's arrival. I believe they broke 20+ million on 2 occasions--even post manziel era.

Are there other factors that contributed to this? Certainly the move to the SEC, television exposure, upgrades to facilities, and other factors make a&m an interesting case. However, it would be tough to get rid of someone with so much cash flowing in. Certainly risky!

Tennessee has a much uglier financial situation.
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 9:35 pm to


Them Icy Whites doe
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 9:42 pm to
The most overpaid coach in CFB is Charlie Weis.

LINK

quote:

Altogether, Weis could be paid as much as $4.6 million in 2015 for having once been the head coach of two schools that were willing to eat the majority of his contract to see him go away.


admittedly this is a loose interpretation of the phrase "coach in CFB" seeing as he isn't currently employed.
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