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re: Kentucky claims 1950 football national championship
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:54 pm to MizzouTrue
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:54 pm to MizzouTrue
I am sure they are claiming it because NC was picked before the bowl game in those days. Problem is that they finished ranked 7 that year and you would have to go through the other undefeated teams ahead of them and see how they finished before you jump UK 7 spots.
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 3:18 pm to Oklahomey
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FWAA and NFF were respectable selectors, but never held the same weight. Both selectors never conducted weekly polls. They just named a champion at the end. AP and UPI conducted weekly polls. The majority of the college football world only goes by AP and UPI/Coaches. That's a given fact.
1958 National Champions: LSU with 15 selectors including the AP and UPI.
Iowa doesn't claim the title, but they were named by only 1 selector, the newly formed FWAA as they deemed their Rose Bowl win over #16 California to me bore impressive, yet LSU shutout #12 Clemson in the Sugar Bowl.
LSU (11-0-0); Iowa (8-1-1)
Tell me how the FWAA is a valid selector?
You are an Alabama fan. I am surprised you don't know more about 1961. Alabama went (11-0-0) en route to an AP and UPI national championship. To me, and many others, Alabama is the sole champion. But don't tell Ohio State that.
Ohio State (8-0-1) was also selected as national champion by the FWAA.
For those above reasons, the FWAA doesn't hold as much weight as the AP and UPI/Coaches
You need to read the actual NCAA records book.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:03 pm to MizzouTrue
I claim 1950 and 1898. UK's best team under the Bear (1950) resulted in a recognized national championship and UK's best team of all time (1898) was known as "the Immortals" because they were unbeaten, untied and unscored upon.
The Immortals played legendary football squads like the 160th Indiana and Co. H of 8th Massachusetts.
Suck it, haters. I hope they commission an even crappier trophy for the 1898 squad.
The Immortals played legendary football squads like the 160th Indiana and Co. H of 8th Massachusetts.
Suck it, haters. I hope they commission an even crappier trophy for the 1898 squad.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 8:49 pm to MizzouTrue
Nick Saban and Bear Bryant now have one more thing in common.
Now they both won a fake national title at another SEC school before going to Alabama.
Now they both won a fake national title at another SEC school before going to Alabama.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 8:57 pm to JDHLaw
Damn right. Kentucky, Tennessee, and Oklahoma claim 1950.
Kentucky beat Oklahoma, endjng their record setting winning streak.
Oklahoma, shut the frick up.
Tennessee beat Kentucky.
Kentucky finished 5-1 and won the SEC. Tennessee didn't even win the conference that year yet claim to be national champions.
4-5 Mississippi State beat Tennessee.
Tennessee, shut the frick up.
Kentucky beat Oklahoma, endjng their record setting winning streak.
Oklahoma, shut the frick up.
Tennessee beat Kentucky.
Kentucky finished 5-1 and won the SEC. Tennessee didn't even win the conference that year yet claim to be national champions.
4-5 Mississippi State beat Tennessee.
Tennessee, shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:13 pm to UKWildcats
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Tennessee, shut the frick up.
Tennessee beat you that year!
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:16 pm to UKWildcats
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Tennessee beat Kentucky.
So, we have a better claim to the title than you. Sit down little bro
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:23 pm to Vols&Shaft83
UK 48, Miss State 21
Miss State 7, UT 0
UT 7, UK 0
Advantage UK.
Miss State 7, UT 0
UT 7, UK 0
Advantage UK.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:27 pm to Kentucker
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UT 7, UK 0
Advantage UK.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:30 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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So, we have a better claim to the title than you. Sit down little bro
I thought no one was allowed to claim a national title in a year when they didn't even win their conference?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:34 pm to AlabamaAlum07
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I thought no one was allowed to claim a national title in a year when they didn't even win their conference?
I'm curious as to how they won the conference when we had the same record and the Tennessee had the head to head? What kind of witchcraft voodoo buttfrickery is that?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:40 pm to Vols&Shaft83
They played an extra conference game which was a common thing to do back then before the 70s.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:44 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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the NCAA recognizes ours.
Actually the NCAA acknowledges yours. There's a difference.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:21 pm to ctiger69
Upvoted
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:34 am to UKWildcats
Oklahoma's record winning streak is 47 games (1953-1957).
Oklahoma was the only undefeated team in 1950 as bowls didn't count, but were merely exhibition games.
Oklahoma won Associated Press and United Press. You Kentucky can sit down.
Besides, Tennessee has a more legit claim to 1950 than Kentucky.
Tennessee lost their only game early in the season. Kentucky lost their final game of the regular season.
Advantage - Oklahoma
Advantage - Tennessee (finished higher ranked than Kentucky in both polls)
UK, stick with your coRUPPt basketball history.
Oklahoma was the only undefeated team in 1950 as bowls didn't count, but were merely exhibition games.
Oklahoma won Associated Press and United Press. You Kentucky can sit down.
Besides, Tennessee has a more legit claim to 1950 than Kentucky.
Tennessee lost their only game early in the season. Kentucky lost their final game of the regular season.
Advantage - Oklahoma
Advantage - Tennessee (finished higher ranked than Kentucky in both polls)
UK, stick with your coRUPPt basketball history.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:01 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:We were 5-1. Y'all were 4-1. And you lost to a 4-5 Mississippi State team.
I'm curious as to how they won the conference when we had the same record and the Tennessee had the head to head? What kind of witchcraft voodoo buttfrickery is that?
Now explain to me how a team that didn't even win it's conference is supposed to be able to claim a national championship but the team who did isn't? That's voodoo buttfrickery.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:07 am to Oklahomey
quote:So in one breath you say Kentucky can't claim it because we lost our last regular season game. Meanwhile Oklahoma lost their last game of the entire season. In what sport can you claim a natty under such circumstances? Advantage Kentucky.
Oklahoma's record winning streak is 47 games (1953-1957).
Oklahoma was the only undefeated team in 1950 as bowls didn't count, but were merely exhibition games.
Oklahoma won Associated Press and United Press. You Kentucky can sit down.
Besides, Tennessee has a more legit claim to 1950 than Kentucky.
Tennessee lost their only game early in the season. Kentucky lost their final game of the regular season.
Advantage - Oklahoma
Advantage - Tennessee (finished higher ranked than Kentucky in both polls)
UK, stick with your coRUPPt basketball history.
You again say Kentucky lost their last regular season game whereas Tennessee lost earlier. In what world does the team with 1 loss to a 10-1 team have a worse resume than a team with a loss to a 4-5 team? Advantage Kentucky.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 6:08 am
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:09 pm to UKWildcats
Timing. Tennessee recovered and won out. UK ended season on a loss.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:48 pm to Oklahomey
The final AP poll was taken before the season even ended. That fully discredits it.
UK, the SEC champs, beat OU, the big 7 champs and claimed the NC. All of the teams ahead of UK in the final poll lost except UT, who finished second to UK in the SEC.
Advantage, UK.
Oh, and
for the basketball comment.
UK, the SEC champs, beat OU, the big 7 champs and claimed the NC. All of the teams ahead of UK in the final poll lost except UT, who finished second to UK in the SEC.
Advantage, UK.
Oh, and
for the basketball comment. Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:18 pm to Oklahomey
quote:No, pretty certain Kentucky ended the 1950 season beating Oklahoma's arse in the Sugar Bowl.
Timing. Tennessee recovered and won out. UK ended season on a loss.
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