re: Just how bad is the denial?

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And if your Administration, including your coaching staff hadn't carried on working their deals while y'all were under investigation then there would have been no need to send the NOA because OM would have been clean.

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Not sure if that's stupidity or just plain arrogance? Most schools, when the NCAA comes sniffing, pucker their b-hole pretty damn tight and make sure every I is dotted and T is crossed in triplicate just to be sure.

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Not sure if that's stupidity or just plain arrogance? Most schools, when the NCAA comes sniffing, pucker their b-hole pretty damn tight and make sure every I is dotted and T is crossed in triplicate just to be sure.

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Yeah, I can't figure that out either. OM chose to retain staffers that were listed in the 1st NOA. They obviously didn't even take the time to monitor and vet something as simple as Tunsil's loaner cars. And the AD & HC didn't even put the lock down on Barney because he was still working as middle-man between the recruits & boosters during recruiting.

Was it arrogance and rebelliousness or was the process so systematic that they were entrenched with continuing on like they had done in the past that they couldn't shut the shite down?

Here's the facts from an outside perspective:

MSU beats Ole Miss 4 outa 5 years and 3 in a row...starts putting up billboards all over the state mocking Ole Miss. Dan Mullen is king of the state.

Ole Miss alum gets tired of hearing it every day. Factual details below:

Yr Rec Rank MSU Score (prior year)
2008 29th 17-14 MSU 2007
2009 19th 45-0 Ole Miss 2008
2010 23rd 41-27 MSU 2009
2011 20th 31-23 MSU 2010
2012 5th 31-3 MSU 2011 (FREEZE HIRED AFTER THIS)
2013 8th 41-24 Ole Miss (2012)
2014 15th 17-10 MSU OT (2013)
2015 17th 31-17 Ole Miss
2016 5th (probably the NCAA dagger here)
2017 30th

One might assume that Ole Miss Alum went out and hired a coach with 2 years HC experience...who had some rather strange ties to OM already through Michael Oher...since Freeze got hired along with Oher signing.

There aren't many reasons why top recruits would suddenly start signing and most would argue that a new, unproven HC probably wouldn't be enough reason. As to Freeze supporters claims that he was such a strong Christian (not mocking or judging that here) that kids gravitated to him. Tunsil's behavior and Treadway's rep don't argue for that angle exactly....

soooo....

From an outsider's perspective...ya'll got tired of the billboards and getting that butt kicked..brought in a naive guy as coach...and started cheating like crazy.

And Ole Miss STILL can't beat Arkansas. That must really sting.

It's all ok. I'm about 83 days, Ole Miss will know their fate and Ole Miss will go to the SWAC and we will never have to hear about them again

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One might assume that Ole Miss Alum went out and hired a coach with 2 years HC experience...who had some rather strange ties to OM already through Michael Oher...since Freeze got hired along with Oher signing.

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Freeze knew how to turn a blind eye to the folks the could work deal behind the scenes. I honestly doubt he knew what the boosters were doing, but there is NO reason for him not to know his own coaches were coordinating recruiting visits with the assistance of boosters. And there's NO way he didn't know that Tunsil continued to use a loaner car while under NCAA investigation.

He can't use the defense that the FCA guy isn't a booster....All Ole Miss Compliance had to do was get the FCA guy cleared through the NCAA before they allowed him to transports recruits to OM, and before they allowed him to attend a breakfast with recruits in Hugh's own home. Ignorance is no excuse, you have a Compliance staff in place for a reason.

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It's the belief that if any school was investigated for 3 1/2 years

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While others believe it's time for you boys to drop your pants and say "thank you sir may I have another."

Ole Miss success in recruiting didn't pass the smell test. Too much too soon. Was it reasonable that Freeze would come from Ark State and within a year grab three 5* in one class out of nowhere? Maybe he prayed to Jesus and the Lord, troubled by OM's decades long suffering, made sure that Hugh was rewarded for his stalwart Christian faith. Nah, that's bullshite.