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re: Just how bad is the denial?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:12 am to Whereisomaha
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:12 am to Whereisomaha
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Getting caught robbing a bank for $200 doesn't mean you don't get put in jail
This is why I feel bad for Ole Miss. However, this is more like getting caught robbing the same bank for $200 multiple times.
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:13 am to Whereisomaha
quote:Yeah we all know. Y'all were buying the hell out of some 5*'s and still couldn't make a bowl. Maybe Shea will get to play in a bowl his senior year.....if he's still there.
You can have 1-2 great players and your class still be shite you know?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:13 am to Whereisomaha
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15k to our top defensive target in 3 years is "obliterated"? Once again, a lazy narrative that if you put any factual thought into becomes ridiculous
It's not the dollar amounts that the NCAA is worried about. It's about the process, and the NCAA believes they have found enough evidence that the school was complicit in the violations. The violations weren't "mistakes" or "oversights", they were intentional and they were orchestrated by or committed with the knowledge of school officials.
And now it's a classic case of the Milton Berle Theory. They are going to show just enough to bury Ole Miss. They don't need to find $250k paid to a player, houses given to relatives, or anything egregious. And honestly, if they start doing that it will open a new can of worms.
It has the added benefit of forcing Ole Miss's hand. If they do want to go down swinging, they will end up admitting to much larger issues than the NCAA charged them with.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:14 am to Whereisomaha
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The world isn't fair and it's annoying to bitch about what you can't control so I agree, shut up with the "poor little ole me" routine.
That's where I am with the whole ordeal. Some may think the punishment we are getting is unfair, and it may be, but complaining and melting about it does no good.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:14 am to Whereisomaha
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It's the belief that if any school was investigated for 3 1/2 years they would find things like loaner cars.
Auburn got a pretty thorough colonoscopy by the NCAA and they found nothing. I think yalls theory is wrong.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:16 am to Whereisomaha
So basically, it's petty shite because, "Everyone else just has to be doing the same thing, only way way worse."
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:30 am to cyde
It's funny how the same things get said every time a school gets hit with major penalties. We said it, USC said it, tOSU said it, everybody says it.
Here's a tip from a fan who has been through this before: No matter how much you can prove your point, nobody is interested in hearing how the punishment didn't fit the crime. If you were guilty of anything, then they don't care if you got hit harder than you deserved. People don't focus on nuance. You cheated, you got punished, end of story. You're welcome to keep debating it, but you're going to be very frustrated at your inability to persuade anyone. Trust me on that one.
Here's a tip from a fan who has been through this before: No matter how much you can prove your point, nobody is interested in hearing how the punishment didn't fit the crime. If you were guilty of anything, then they don't care if you got hit harder than you deserved. People don't focus on nuance. You cheated, you got punished, end of story. You're welcome to keep debating it, but you're going to be very frustrated at your inability to persuade anyone. Trust me on that one.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:31 am to nes2010
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Auburn got a pretty thorough colonoscopy by the NCAA and they found nothing. I think yalls theory is wrong.
Two big differences. One, had Cam's father rattedd on him the way Tunsils step father did, y'all would have been hammered.
Secondly there was no immunity given to the state snitch in yalls investigation. Anyone seeing a trend here? Had the state snitch in our investigation not been given immunity we would have only received the one NOA and would have lost 11 scholarships only because a players family member snitched
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:33 am to Whereisomaha
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:34 am to MullenBoys
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Not only do you cheat your arse off but now you post on here that you are entitled to EVERY good recruit in the state and that because MSU gets some then we are cheating.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say we can cherry pick national recruits because we cheat but we can't cherry pick instate recruits. Hell one of the recruits I mentioned y'all got caught paying yet you wont admit you got those players because you cheat too. Yet I'm the naive one. Idiot
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 9:35 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:35 am to MullenBoys
quote:So does that mean you are going to give it rest? I command you!
I give up on their fan base.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:36 am to UAtide11
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And now it's a classic case of the Milton Berle Theory. They are going to show just enough to bury Ole Miss
Brilliant Thank You for this analogy that I will be unapologetically using from now on
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:37 am to MullenBoys
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They have no ability to think for themselves. Brainwashed at a new level. There is no cure for what they have.
missuhsippuh education
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:38 am to Whereisomaha
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Two big differences. One, had Cam's father rattedd on him the way Tunsils step father did, y'all would have been hammered.
Secondly there was no immunity given to the state snitch in yalls investigation. Anyone seeing a trend here? Had the state snitch in our investigation not been given immunity we would have only received the one NOA and would have lost 11 scholarships only because a players family member snitched
one big thing, the comment he replied to said that having investigators on campus for any length they were bound to find something. Your retorts mean nothing in this sense
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Had the state snitch in our investigation not been given immunity we would have only received the one NOA and would have lost 11 scholarships only because a players family member snitched
its funny that this is your reality Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:38 am to Whereisomaha
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Secondly there was no immunity given to the state snitch in yalls investigation. Anyone seeing a trend here? Had the state snitch in our investigation not been given immunity we would have only received the one NOA and would have lost 11 scholarships only because a players family member snitched
Just as a reminder: You are using the word "snitch" to mean "provide honest information about Ole Miss violating NCAA rules".
...lest we lose sight of what's important here...
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:44 am to Whereisomaha
NCAA saw Ole Miss's out of control cheating and while it couldn't prove rock hard evidence on everything it saw going on, all it needed to do was find enough to roast you. We have seen this before with U$C. Where the charges were just the tip of the iceberg of the lack of institutional control, but that is all the NCAA needed to get its hands on to destroy the whole thing.
You can keep your head buried in the sand all you like. Every charge OM gets will be well deserved. Not only for the massive cheating, but also for thumbing their nose at the NCAA through the whole process and daring them to do something about it.
You can keep your head buried in the sand all you like. Every charge OM gets will be well deserved. Not only for the massive cheating, but also for thumbing their nose at the NCAA through the whole process and daring them to do something about it.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:47 am to MullenBoys
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15 level 1 violations, most I've ever seen
Florida 107 violations in 1984
OU 20-plus in 1988, UK "more than three dozen" 2002
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:13 am to MullenBoys
They act like it is the 1950's when they were last a top tier program.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:47 am to MullenBoys
And on top of it all they want all the other SEC programs to go down in their flames with them!
Learn how to work the system within the accepted grey areas, don't mock them and then dare the snake to bite, then cry when you got bitten and ask the snake to bite everyone else in the room too!
Learn how to work the system within the accepted grey areas, don't mock them and then dare the snake to bite, then cry when you got bitten and ask the snake to bite everyone else in the room too!
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:48 am to BlackPawnMartyr
quote:also for thumbing their nose at the NCAA through the whole process and daring them to do something about it.
also for thumbing their nose at the NCAA through the whole process and daring them to do something about it.
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