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re: Josh Pate: Jamaal Jarrett Story is an “embarrassment” to the AJC

Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9498 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:05 pm to
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Nothing is going to stop you from wearing your red PFG, being fat, and barking at people this fall


So…the good life. Got it.

The damn story was about a 16 year old….recruit with charges dropped. That was their gotcha. The girl 21 that hit him up in the first place.

Last time I checked, it is the DA that decides what to prosecute. The same one 2 years ago that decided to prosecute Adam Anderson (who was kicked off the team despite not being found guilty).

Writers other gotcha (since like 5 people in this thread actually read it and rest just being a-holes) was that some of Adams team mates showed to support him at bond hearing.

Writer is an embarrassment to journalism (unless they move it to the opinion section).

Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
1829 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:08 pm to
I’m with Pate. He’s a good Christian and calls it like it is. I have no doubt that if the charges were legit that he’d take a hard stance against the criminal
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42688 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:14 pm to
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Josh Pate.


I actually like Josh Pate and think he does a good job with the actual football parts of things but he's being 100 percent homer on this one. I couldn't sit through not one but 2 videos on this where he says there's bias, he read the stuff, and there's bias without him actually stating where the bias is or how the articles are wrong. It's a valiant effort at apologetics but he needs to actually support his arguments - saying I looked at it and it vaporized doesn't actually vaporize what they presented. Clearly laying out where those articles are wrong would do that but so far no one has done that.

If you're disputing allegations like this you make the case. Bitches be lying only works on people already prone to believe you and isn't a good argument.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9498 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:19 pm to
Jiffyjohnaon-
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lol id rather play for a championship every 5 years or so than go 40 years without one.


Pretty sure we have played for one in 4 of the last 6 years. But ok.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9498 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:25 pm to
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there's bias without him actually stating where the bias is or how the articles are wrong.


What? As you said, you didn’t watch the videos.

Pate walks through the article starting with the gotcha headline without facts to even back that up. His “facts” are that the actual article doesn’t have facts to match the headline. Two instances. One two years ago that will go to trial and another that was a 16 year old boy recruit that was dropped (and properly so).

Writers issue is either with young black athletes or the legal system…zero facts in UGA match his click bait headlines.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:29 pm to
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I think at this point UGA has a PR problem and needs to keep appearances in mind.


I’m not claiming UGA doesn’t have issues, but the overwhelming majority commenting haven’t read the articles that were published. People took the initial headline and ran with it. Josh Pate gave the perfect explanation of this “story”, but I don’t expect anyone to actually dive in and actually read or watch anything when a headline or message board is available.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33057 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:08 pm to
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t he's being 100 percent homer on this one.


After looking at the entire report, as Pate did, Judd clearly did not do an accurate and objective review of all of the evidence. He cherry picked what he wanted to spin it how he wanted. It doesnt make one a homer to reach that conclusion.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:27 pm to
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I actually like Josh Pate and think he does a good job with the actual football parts of things but he's being 100 percent homer on this one. I couldn't sit through not one but 2 videos on this where he says there's bias, he read the stuff, and there's bias without him actually stating where the bias is or how the articles are wrong. It's a valiant effort at apologetics but he needs to actually support his arguments - saying I looked at it and it vaporized doesn't actually vaporize what they presented. Clearly laying out where those articles are wrong would do that but so far no one has done that. If you're disputing allegations like this you make the case. Bitches be lying only works on people already prone to believe you and isn't a good argument.

Just read the police report, especially their text exchange. That will explain why it vaporizes.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:30 pm to
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Please articulate it for me.

I think our fixer shouldn’t be known by name by all the media in the SEC footprint. That’s all I’m saying. He has to keep a lower profile. Every story that pops up, he’s the center of the whole thing.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33057 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:43 pm to
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I think our fixer shouldn’t be known by name by all the media in the SEC footprint. That’s all I’m saying. He has to keep a lower profile. Every story that pops up, he’s the center of the whole thing.


So your idea is to remove Gantt just because Judd uses his name as a gotcha?
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5339 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:20 pm to
To be fair to UGA fans, the AJC is a bunch of woke libtards that sensationalize everything.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42688 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:54 pm to
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What? As you said, you didn’t watch the videos.


I didn't watch both. He spent far too much time telling me nothing beyond a dressed up version of 'theyz biased against us Pawl!111!' to invest more time watching him say the same thing again. This is particularly true when he implies everything is nothing while ignoring that of the two cases the LB no one's heard of is awaiting trial. Clearly there's something but directing everything at one case that he (and others) in turn dispute as nothing is a nifty way of misdirecting and claiming there's nothing whatsoever to anything.

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His “facts” are that the actual article doesn’t have facts to match the headline.


So Jamal didn't break curfew, didn't drink and didn't wind up being interviewed by police and UGA didn't rally behind him? THAT is what the headline (and first portion of the article) says.


As for the facts, post them. Post links. And if you're Pate - lay them out. Simply saying 'it's nothing' isn't an argument. It's a dismissal and only those who are already prone to buy it are going to buy that as an answer.
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 12:03 am
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9498 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 12:39 am to

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So Jamal didn't break curfew, didn't drink and didn't wind up being interviewed by police and UGA didn't rally behind him? THAT is what the headline (and first portion of the article) says.


The clickbait af headline reads:
“UGA football program rallies when players accused of abusing women”

If you can’t see that is a trash and misleading headline then you have a stupid bias or simple level of comprehension.

quote:

LB no one's heard of is awaiting trial.


The dude was going to be a first round draft pick. It was his team mates the article primarily indicated rallied behind him. It is wrong for guys that actually know him to show at his bond hearing as character witness? You are debating an article you didn’t even read which is exactly the point Pate was making.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 4:38 am to
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So your idea is to remove Gantt just because Judd uses his name as a gotcha?

No. I just think he has to be more subtle somehow. We have to acknowledge the fact that he’s now bringing attention to these situations, even if that’s not his fault.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33057 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 5:18 am to
Perhaps he should wear a mask, or camo?
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3136 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 5:27 am to
common Josh Pate W
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42688 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:49 am to
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You are debating an article you didn’t even read which is exactly the point Pate was making.


Nope. I read the article. I'm not sure that Pate did because he doesn't actually dispute it. He just whines about bias.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33057 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 10:09 am to
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Jamal didn't break curfew, didn't drink and didn't wind up being interviewed by police and UGA didn't rally behind him


Older girl talking dirty and her own hotel
Room. Jamal Got head, had sex, got drunk, snuck out, and turns out older girl was crazy.

None of that is particularly news worthy for a 16 year old.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16097 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 10:13 am to
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Older girl talking dirty and her own hotel Room. Jamal Got head, had sex, got drunk, snuck out, and turns out older girl was crazy.


You left out the forced sodomy part.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33057 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 10:17 am to
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You left out the forced sodomy part.


You took judd’s bait and he reeled you in.

It looks like you disagree with the idea of “innocent until proven guilty”. That’s a terrible look for you.

Even worse. You are now confusing consensual and enthusiastic with forced, as expected.
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