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re: Jordan Hare Expanding?

Posted on 7/28/13 at 9:51 am to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 9:51 am to
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I don't think so.

In fact, I would rather put in actual seats with cup holders and arm rest and contract capacity to about 80,000.

Have the "best", instead of the "most".


Exactly my way of thinking as well.

We do not need more expansion - we need tweaking to perfection.

I honestly believe that SCAR is doing exactly that after talking about expansion for years - the right people are saying no, but we're going to continue to upgrade and beautify in an attempt to reach architectural perfection over time.

Let's all face it and admit that when you build-in too many seats eventually the day will come when many of them will not be filled - especially with TV as it is these days.

80+ is more than enough for any college football team.

I've been to all the major stadiums in the country over the decades and while they may claim capacity sold-out crowds, they rarely are.

I'm really starting to believe that ADs are more concerned with "sold out" than they are with "full to capacity" anyways.

"Overflowing" is always better than patches of empty seats.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 9:52 am to
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I think a lot of schools are going to be cautious about expansion in the near future. With the new TV Contracts and TV technology increasing, the fear of what is going on with NASCAR the last five years is creating some fear. Fans are getting tired of the increase in cost of attending a game, when they can watch it at home on their 60 inch HD TV.


Exactly.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/28/13 at 9:54 am to
I agree. I almost hate to say it, but the SEC may be building dinosaur "monuments to the past". I can see the day when sports are almost solely a studio-type event with very little live audience.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 10:28 am to
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I agree. I almost hate to say it, but the SEC may be building dinosaur "monuments to the past". I can see the day when sports are almost solely a studio-type event with very little live audience.


Everyone thinks the loyalty of College Football Fans will prevent it from happening. NASCAR Fans are just as loyal, but in todays world time and money have trumped sports loyalty.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11442 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 11:45 am to
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Everyone thinks the loyalty of College Football Fans will prevent it from happening. NASCAR Fans are just as loyal, but in todays world time and money have trumped sports loyalty.


This
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:25 pm to
As soon as they can fill the 87,000 they have now, I'm sure they will consider expanding again.
Posted by SamGinn Cam
Okinawa
Member since Jul 2013
2807 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:30 pm to
$$$ to get there and add'l expenses keeps me from going back. It's not like AU is 40 miles from ATL (UGA) or Birmingham (UA). The Gump airport is garbage.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:35 pm to
Well, this is why I was happy that UGA has not really considered closing in the bridge and instead put the money into Reed Alley which has made the concessions better than it was. They still need food improvement, but that area is so much nicer than it was before. UGA is lucky though in that Athens will always be a draw in and of itself regardless of the game. I will always enjoy sitting in the stadium for CFB, but now that my Sundays are spent cramming all the studying/homework in, a leisurely brunch and chill on a Sunday in Athens is heaven itself.
Posted by Jefferson Davis
Plank Road
Member since Nov 2011
5960 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:55 pm to
I really enjoyed JHS when I was there in 2010. The endzones could really use some work, however.

Posted by Ptolemy's
StarkVegas, Missifrickingssippi
Member since Jun 2013
976 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:56 pm to
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Everyone thinks the loyalty of College Football Fans will prevent it from happening. NASCAR Fans are just as loyal, but in todays world time and money have trumped sports loyalty.


I beg to differ. NASCAR was always going to be a fad. The networks ruined it when they started pushing the "soap opera" bullshite about wars between drivers. Your average uneducated redneck, what made NASCAR so great, didn't care for all of that shite. They just wanted to see shite go fast and mimic the way a big block sounds at full throttle.

College football fans are totally different. Most of them outside the states of Louisiana and Alabama actually attended at least junior college somewhere. Some even attended the school they root for. The people who are the first to give up going to your favorite schools stadiums because it too much hassle or too expensive are generally the people who have no vested interest in it other than the game. I go to see friends, to visit faculty that had a positive influence on me, to show my son where I had classes and to show him where he will have classes one day too . To relive my experience there. You can't get that in a 60 inch HDTV.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 1:58 pm to
We need to focus on closing in the stadium/making a little more of a bowl like Bama did with BDS. Would increase volume of the fans and add money from more luxury boxes.

Until we get better, we should increase capacity. Better uses of our money would be to a sound system, additional jumbotron and improved fascade.


In 5-10 years I can see the need for capacity expansion
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:15 pm to
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I beg to differ. NASCAR was always going to be a fad. The networks ruined it when they started pushing the "soap opera" bullshite about wars between drivers. Your average uneducated redneck, what made NASCAR so great, didn't care for all of that shite. They just wanted to see shite go fast and mimic the way a big block sounds at full throttle. College football fans are totally different. Most of them outside the states of Louisiana and Alabama actually attended at least junior college somewhere. Some even attended the school they root for. The people who are the first to give up going to your favorite schools stadiums because it too much hassle or too expensive are generally the people who have no vested interest in it other than the game.
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I go to see friends, to visit faculty that had a positive influence on me, to show my son where I had classes and to show him where he will have classes one day too . To relive my experience there. You can't get that in a 60 inch HDTV.



Does your son hear those stories 8 times a year ? The alumni are the ones who usually have something else in life to do than go watch ULM. People will go to the games, but they are tired of being held hostage to bad matchups with their season tickets. Check the NASCAR TV contract, if you think the networks think it is a fad.
This post was edited on 7/28/13 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/28/13 at 2:24 pm to
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As soon as they can fill the 87,000 they have now, I'm sure they will consider expanding again.


The money is not in the upperdeck seats, it is in the skyboxes. AU has over 50 requests from companies on a waiting list for these skyboxes or premium seating. AU has filled the stadium for most games, until the last 2 years. If they do expand it will be to make money and not to market the size of the stadium.
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