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re: Johnny Football vs LSU

Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by RobNation
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2011
889 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:59 pm to
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quote:
Nobody's saying A&M will put up 600 yards and 50 points.

Except for me.

I'm definitely saying this.


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Posted by John Maplethorpe
Graubünden, Switzerland
Member since Jun 2010
889 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:00 pm to
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And their defenses didn't stop anything and both got 40+ hung on them.


Were those defenses top 30 in yards per play? Top 35 in scoring D? Your O this year isn't as good as in years past.
Posted by Sits With Squirrels
Forward Unto Dawn
Member since Jul 2012
1257 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:01 pm to
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250 yards?


Whats so hard to understand here?? Boy you must be ate up with tha dambass..

LSU held USCe to 211 total yards...A Far superior team than Tech...So yeah a Legit D holds Tech down
This post was edited on 10/16/12 at 1:02 pm
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28340 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:01 pm to
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Your O this year isn't as good as in years past.


I believe your argument just hit a roadblock.

Please refer to 2009, 2010, and 2011 offenses please. Terrible. Just awful. Pathetic. Anemic.
Posted by miori
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
43 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:01 pm to
I'm an A&M student but I am also a fan of objectivity. Everyone has opinions of what will happen, but here is a collection of what has happened. *Numbers with (st/nd/rd/th) are rankings

A&M's Offense:
- 47 PPG (5th) & 562 YPG (3rd) (1st in SEC in both)
- 3rd Down Conversion: 53% (8th)
- Manziel: averaging 392 yards, 4 TDs, & 0.8 TO per game
- Only faced 1 defense (Florida) in top 60 defenses (in either YPG or Points Allowed per game)
- only scored 17 points against Florida

A&M's Defense:
- 21.8 PPG (37th) & 405 YPG (72nd)
- 14.8 PPG before La Tech game
- 615 yards against La Tech last week
- 300 passing YPG (113th)
- 19 PPG vs. SEC opponents (3 games)

LSU Offense:
- 31 PPG (44th) & 395 YPG (67th)
- 13 PPG vs SEC opponents (3 games)
- 215 RYPG (24th); 180 PYPG (110)
- RZ scoring %: 78.5% (75th)

LSU Defense:
- 12.7 PPG (5th) & 207 YPG (2nd)
- Passing: 135 YPG (3rd) / Sack %: 9.5% (9th)
- Rushing: 72.8 YPG (5th) & 2.2 YPRush (3rd)
- Takeaways pg: 2.3 (20th)

My Take: A&M has proven to be an elite offense and Manziel finds ways to make plays. Manziel will likely need to alter his approach and not rely on his feet in crucial situations because of LSU's unbelievable team speed. LSU's defense is loaded with NFL specimens and plays dominant team defense. Both LSU's offense and A&M's defense are fundamentally unsound, so look for both sides to gamble for big plays.

My prediction: LSU wins 30-24

Miori out.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:03 pm to
No one gives a frick. DIAF.
Posted by RobNation
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2011
889 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:03 pm to
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miori


Smartest student at A&M....ever
Posted by John Maplethorpe
Graubünden, Switzerland
Member since Jun 2010
889 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:04 pm to
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Please refer to 2009, 2010, and 2011 offenses please. Terrible. Just awful. Pathetic. Anemic.


Worse than 13 points per game in league play?
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28340 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:07 pm to
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Worse than 13 points per game in league play?


Going back to selective stats I see.

Offense is obviously better.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:09 pm to
This thread is still going...?
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
Franklinton, LA
Member since Aug 2011
7955 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:12 pm to
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Ags win, 52 - 22 (2 td, 2 fg, and a safety)


Posted by BigAggie06
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
952 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:13 pm to
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But your backups should be able to play football better.


We were down 2 starters and a primary back up in the secondary as well as one of our top defenders at LB.

We were so low on players in the secondary that we actually had a LB playing our Nickel back most of the night because our regular Nickel was playing Safety.

Add on to that the fact that the CUSA refs were tossing PI calls just for breathing on Patton and the fact that our defense was on the field for 101 plays even though we had TOP advantage of over 5 minutes and you are going to get some gaudy stats.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28340 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:14 pm to
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We were down 2 starters and a primary back up in the secondary as well as one of our top defenders at LB.


These excuses won't fly with LSU fans. Of all teams in the SEC, LSU does not care about another team's injuries due to their own.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17995 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:16 pm to
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had a LB playing our Nickel back most of the night


Johnny Manziel's favorite band!!!
Posted by Phil Wenneck
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
582 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:19 pm to
Take that gay shite back to Tiger Rant bruh.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17995 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:20 pm to
Don't start running your mouth at me son. You're going to be dominated at the line of scrimmage saturday. DWI
This post was edited on 10/16/12 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
Franklinton, LA
Member since Aug 2011
7955 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 2:26 pm to
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Don't start running your mouth at me son. You're going to be dominated at the line of scrimmage saturday. DWI


Posted by Wazoo
Member since Oct 2012
944 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 2:38 pm to
I'd just like to say that our DE was an all-state sprinter in high school. I'll say it again...our DE. Your QB will not be the fastest person on the field. I can promise that.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 2:55 pm to
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POINTS PER GAME ALLOWED
14.00 (8TH) LSU
21.83 (36TH) A&M

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Numbers skewed by playing the #1 scoring offense and we still average <22 points per game against us against better offenses than LSU can even dream about.

You mean La Tech is the #1 scoring offense? If you gave up that many points to a sister school in LA, with maybe 10% of the talent that LSU has, do you honestly think this will end well?

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73512 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 2:58 pm to
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- 21.8 PPG (37th) & 405 YPG (72nd)
- 14.8 PPG before La Tech game


Yeah. LA Tech is so good that it is important to post stats excluding them to get a better picture of A&M's true defense.
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