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JoHn Gruden to Tennessee is the football equivalent of Avery Johnson to Alabama
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:01 pm
Big first years at job (champion and runner up), overall mediocre records (Johnson 58% NBA Win, Gruden 54% NFL Win), post-coaching well known ESPN celebs, engaging personalities, little experience in college game. A sliding scale due to the Tennessee football job being better than the Alabama basketball job and Gruden v Johnson being a similar difference with Gruden being better than Avery.
True or false?
Show your work.
True or false?
Show your work.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 8:23 pm
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
1. I doubt Tennessee actually gets Gruden
2. Johnson never won an NBA Championship
3. As far as I know, Johnson hasn't been sought after as a head coach since being fired.
2. Johnson never won an NBA Championship
3. As far as I know, Johnson hasn't been sought after as a head coach since being fired.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Dave Wannstedt
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I am now OUT on Gruden.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:18 pm to Robert Goulet
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I am now OUT on Gruden.
Nailed it
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I was rolled up by the subject line alone.
This is worse than the first time I saw childbirth.
This is worse than the first time I saw childbirth.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:40 pm to Robert Goulet
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I was rolled up by the subject line alone.
This is worse than the first time I saw childbirth.
They even both have classic nicknames.
Goulet you are in DEEP
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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John Gruden
Goddamnit, George. What is this shite?!
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:13 pm to Robert Goulet
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
1. Grumors are a hobby not anything fans believe in.
BUT for the sake of argument...
2. People know who Gruden is and he has a winning record. Avery was one of many schmuck's who played pro shooty hoops. Comparing the two is beyond silly.
3. Gruden's fame = instant hype and success on the crootin' trail. I know even the best of Gumps (looking at you George) think the world revolves around Alibubba but it really doesn't (well, save for the Saban era foosball program you got going but no one blinked except to say 'good hire' in a perfunctory - we feel like we're supposed to way - when Avery was hired.
-------3a. Crootin matters a ton in CFB
-------3b. In a world where comittees rule hype matters too.
4. As Saban is wont to say, it's the Jimmys and Joes. Gruden brings that.
5. Along similar lines he'd bring good assistants with him and has a rolodex that rivals anyone in the biz. THAT matters - A. LOT.
------5a. The hire and budget for assistants would show we'er finally serious about winning.
So there... why your premise is wrong even tho no one, including myself expects to hire him. Hell, I'm not sure he's the best candidate, tbh. ??
tl;dr - Gruden doesn't = Avery AT ALL even tho no one expects to hire Gruden IRL
BUT for the sake of argument...
2. People know who Gruden is and he has a winning record. Avery was one of many schmuck's who played pro shooty hoops. Comparing the two is beyond silly.
3. Gruden's fame = instant hype and success on the crootin' trail. I know even the best of Gumps (looking at you George) think the world revolves around Alibubba but it really doesn't (well, save for the Saban era foosball program you got going but no one blinked except to say 'good hire' in a perfunctory - we feel like we're supposed to way - when Avery was hired.
-------3a. Crootin matters a ton in CFB
-------3b. In a world where comittees rule hype matters too.
4. As Saban is wont to say, it's the Jimmys and Joes. Gruden brings that.
5. Along similar lines he'd bring good assistants with him and has a rolodex that rivals anyone in the biz. THAT matters - A. LOT.
------5a. The hire and budget for assistants would show we'er finally serious about winning.
So there... why your premise is wrong even tho no one, including myself expects to hire him. Hell, I'm not sure he's the best candidate, tbh. ??
tl;dr - Gruden doesn't = Avery AT ALL even tho no one expects to hire Gruden IRL
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:14 pm to David Ricky
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Goddamnit, George. What is this shite?!
If Gruden signs a top 5 class and has VOLS in top 4 of the SEC by year 3 then wow
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
JON
NO H
What is this amateur hour nonsense?
NO H
What is this amateur hour nonsense?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:18 pm to Prof
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As Saban is wont to say, it's the Jimmys and Joes. Gruden brings that.
I'll take the Collins and Johns IMHO IYAM
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People know who Gruden is and he has a winning record. Avery was one of many schmuck's who played pro shooty hoops. Comparing the two is beyond silly.
Avery's NBA winning percentage was better than Grudens NFL one. Woah.
Instant credibility and immediately taking recruiting up a notch? Sounds like Gruden will take the Avery Johnson approach to building his program.
Wow, the tea leaves on this one
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:18 pm to David Ricky
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JON
NO H
It's pronounced "Jane" IMHO IYAM
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I hope the vols get gruden. They'll still suck but at least have something to get excited about for awhile, sort of like stidham.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:36 pm to Prof
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2. People know who Gruden is and he has a winning record. Avery was one of many schmuck's who played pro shooty hoops. Comparing the two is beyond silly.
I haven't read the rest of the thread, but I hope you've already been called out on this.
Avery Johnson was a GREAT pro basketball player. One of my all time favorite point guards.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
False. More like Pete Carroll, if Pete Carroll had actually won anything in the NFL.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
No one knows who Avery is. Shooty hoops ain't foosball. And Avery doesn't have a Super Bowl. /thread.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:55 pm to Prof
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3. Gruden's fame = instant hype and success on the crootin' trail.
I doubt that any 11th grade high school football player ever saw Jon Gruden coach a game or knows his pro coaching record, maybe even don't know he was ever a coach.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:59 pm to AlaCowboy
quote:what? they see him on MNF and they see him in Hooters commercials and their mama's LOVE them some Chucky. He'll recruit just fine. He gonna OWN shite.
I doubt that any 11th grade high school football player ever saw Jon Gruden coach a game or knows his pro coaching record, maybe even don't know he was ever a coach.
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