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re: Jimbo Fisher is building an FSU-like champion at Texas A&M.

Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:45 am to
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:45 am to
Best I can tell is you have 2012 and 2021 Bama wins to celebrate. Other than those wins it looks a little light ovah there Buddy
Posted by 0x2102
Southeastern Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1700 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:54 am to
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New nicknam

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texfag7/Daniel/cajunbama

Speaking of nicknames.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6869 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:27 am to
8-4
Posted by 0x2102
Southeastern Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1700 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:32 am to
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PlateJohnsonIII

How does it feel to be considered retarded on this board?
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3495 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:32 am to
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You need to worry about passing Arkansas, Ole Miss and Mississippi State first


The rest of the SEC needs to worry about how to get past 'bama. The last SEC team to beat 'bama other than A&M is currently the bottom feeder in the SEC west.

LoserSU fans are still upset that Jimbo turned down their $13M per year offer to stay at A&M. Jimbo knows where the grass is greener.
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3118 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:32 am to
Let’s see what he does with that middle school offense and no Elko
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 10:40 am to
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Jimbo won a NC in his 4th year in 2013.



And lost 13 games in the next 4 years.


K. I was responding to the poster saying he won because of Bowden which is just incorrect. He still won a Natty and 3 ACC Titles while appearing in 5 NY6 games in 8 years. Bowden was 30-22 the previous 4 years at FSU so it isn't like Jimbo inherited a powerhouse.

None of that means Jimbo will win a Natty at A&M but it is amazing the lengths folks go to to act as though he is a crap coach that has never won anything and will never win anything by brushing off all of his accomplishments. Even more strange is Jimbo is a pretty likeable guy that fits well culturally with the SEC. That's tRant tho.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:17 am to
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None of that means Jimbo will win a Natty at A&M but it is amazing the lengths folks go to to act as though he is a crap coach that has never won anything and will never win anything by brushing off all of his accomplishments.


The thing is aTm fans tout his accomplishments but don't seem willing to put them in context. At FSU in six seasons without Jameis, he lost fewer than 3 games ONCE (12-2 in 2012). He also cratered them in 2017. It may well have been because of his personal life situation, but it still happened.

Since coming to aTm he's had ONE season with fewer than four losses despite having recruiting classes ranked (by 247 in the conference) 6th (2018), 3rd (2019), 4th (2020), 4th (2021).

Is he a terrible coach? No. He puts a solid, consistent product on the field but he's been a head coach at high profile P5 programs for 12 years now. By their 12th seasons at P5 programs Saban and Dabo had both won 2 titles and Urban had won 3. Even more telling, in their 12th years at P5 schools Saban won a national title and both Dabo and Urban won conference titles. They were performing at the highest levels of their careers.

Jimbo's national title was in 2013 and he hasn't won a conference title since 2014.

When blessed with an exceptional QB, he's good enough to exploit that talent but there's no evidence that he's got the ability to rise from just solid consistency to being a perennial contender.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 11:19 am
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:31 am to
This is why we can't have nice things.
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:40 am to
Nawww, I highly doubt it.
Posted by ForgetTheRest
Member since Oct 2015
2256 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Since coming to aTm he's had ONE season with fewer than four losses despite having recruiting classes ranked (by 247 in the conference) 6th (2018), 3rd (2019), 4th (2020), 4th (2021).


Our recruiting relative to other conference foes seems to be on par with where we end up ranked relative to the conference. The article points out the possible scenario if Jimbo were to recruit at the highest level which he is doing this year.

SEC Football - 2021 Results vs 247 Team Talent Rankings
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:20 pm to
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When blessed with an exceptional QB, he's good enough to exploit that talent but there's no evidence that he's got the ability to rise from just solid consistency to being a perennial contender.


The reality in football is you can have the best offense and defensive stars around but if your QB isn't at least above average you aren't going to win a National Championship. Having a great QB though increases your chances exponentially.

This year we had the bad luck to have our QB1 break his leg in the 2nd game, and the backup was what I'd call average at best (Throws 1 pick a game on average). With Haynes at the helm, would we have lost 4 games? Perhaps, but probably not. We'll never know.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4358 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Jimbo knows where the grass is greener.


Jimbo knows where he can continue to cash huge checks and be treated like a god for going 8-4.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:46 pm to
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recruiting classes ranked (by 247 in the conference) 6th (2018), 3rd (2019), 4th (2020), 4th (2021).


He has finished on par or better than expected considering those recruiting classes in conference.

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By their 12th seasons at P5 programs Saban and Dabo had both won 2 titles and Urban had won 3. Even more telling, in their 12th years at P5 schools Saban won a national title and both Dabo and Urban won conference titles. They were performing at the highest levels of their careers.


I don't think any rational A&M fan is comparing Jimbo with the best of all time (Saban), or some of the all time greats like Dabo or Meyer. We can all agree their accomplishments are better. He's just not complete dog shite like everyone on here makes him out to be.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11841 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:00 pm to
Aggie fans paid Jimbo one of the biggest contracts out there not only to go 8-4 in his 4th season but finished 5th in the SEC West not conference but the bottom half of the division

Now their fans are on the board bragging about all their money and boosters willing to buy recruits through NLI contracts to convince them to come to college station because Jimbo alone or their facilities are not enough.

Keep throwing all the money you want out there but to sit at the table with the big boys you have to earn it in the field which has yet to happen

Posted by ellis197575
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
1284 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:06 pm to
Meh,
Let's not overlook this was Bama's worst team in a decade. You still lost to LSU's 3rd string players being coached by a guy that had already been fired.

The fact he's recruiting this well is excellent though. Everybody giving yall shyt but just imagine if aTm starts winning more "big" games how much easier recruiting will get and more consistent top 5 classes will become.

Hats off, Fisher is trending in the right direction but he's not nearly there yet.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23887 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:13 pm to
I like Jimbo and aTm, but his offense is not winning a NC in the SEC…great QB or not.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:16 pm to
A&m
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32354 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:19 pm to
You mean like having a criminal at quarterback; that kind of FSU?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14488 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:35 pm to
yeah well the terrible ACC aint walking thru that door anytime soon
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