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re: Jeffery Simmons Enrolls at MSU
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:18 am to croomdawggie
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:18 am to croomdawggie
He hit the camera out of her hand which in turn hit her. You think that's the same as a punching a girl who is on the ground? But as said earlier, OM fans don't care about Simmons, it's the high and mighty bull crap we get from y'all when y'all are coming off of probation for pay for play and just let in a woman beater. Stop going so ape shite about free hamburgers and OM fans won't point out your hypocrisy
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:20 am to croomdawggie
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And yes it is very similar to Stringfellow. Don't act like the girl fainted lol.
Actually some of the witnesses said this is what happened. If you think that trying to wrestle a phone from a girl is the same as standing over her fallen body and beating on her while someone else beats on her too then you have no sense of scale. Things can be bad and not be the same.
I agree, it is awkward Simmons because he wasn't on the team yet but Mullen's response of "we want to investigate" after the video was released was terribly executed. I personally think he should have put Simmons publicly in a work your way onto the field and prove you aren't a shitbag type situation. But it basically came across as we don't want to do anything to discourage this kid from coming here.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:20 am to croomdawggie
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Would Freeze have allowed Simmons to play?
I have no idea, but for the third time, it's not about Simmons, it's about y'all starting a thread a day about improper benefits that equate to 16k and how that means so much more to y'all than rape, actually pay for play, or men abusing women.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:21 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
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Tdot_RiverDawg
Dude, Grier had no idea the things he bought out of sight of the Gator staff were against the rules. He cried bro.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:23 am to Whereisomaha
quote:According to the thread title, it kind of is.
it's not about Simmons,
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:23 am to croomdawggie
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Simmons was in high school. He had no team to get kicked off of.
And yes it is very similar to Stringfellow. Don't act like the girl fainted lol.
Exactly....Stringfellow and UM are lucky that he transferred in before the new rule about transfers with domestic violence issues.
Also, that rule specifically doesn't apply to incoming freshmen signees.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:25 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
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Stringfellow and UM are lucky that he transferred in before the new rule about transfers with domestic violence issues.
Wrestling with a person you don't know at a party isn't domestic violence. Punching a woman you don't know isn't domestic violence.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:27 am to GnashRebel
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Wrestling with a person you don't know at a party isn't domestic violence.
Depends on the context. Were they wrestling or rasslin? Since he slapped a phone out of her hand apparently, I am assuming they were just rasslin.
Oh yeah, I forgot the phone slap caused her to faint, so definitely rasslin. Did he slap the DDT on her too?
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:29 am to DingLeeBerry
He thought they were rasslin. She thought a 6'5 225lbs man was trying to take her phone from her. I probably would have given him my phone.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:30 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
quote:We shouldn't need a rule to tell us whether or not we should allow admittance to MSU. Admission vs allowed to participate are two different things though and I don't think he should be allowed to participate until the whole thing is settled, all evidence provided and then go from there. The evidence is pretty clear though and I can't think of anything that could possibly justify his doing what he did. If it was a fight he was breaking up, fine. Break it up and separate the two and be done with it.
Also, that rule specifically doesn't apply to incoming freshmen signees.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:31 am to Whereisomaha
The camera knocked her out? lol
Also I said similar not the same.
Also I said similar not the same.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:33 am to Diamondawg
The problem is that there are elements that want nothing done because they are afraid of harming the program. There are also elements who think that teenagers who commit a crime should be forever ostracized by the rest of society. What should happen is somewhere in between but people have trouble managing that.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:34 am to Diamondawg
So you think he should redshirt.
A redshirt season is solid enough and will prove they MSU is the bastion of women's safety and that is enough?
A redshirt season is solid enough and will prove they MSU is the bastion of women's safety and that is enough?
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:34 am to Whereisomaha
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OM fans don't care about Simmons, it's the high and mighty bull crap we get from y'all
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:36 am to HailFreezusOver
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A redshirt season is solid enough and will prove they MSU is the bastion of women's safety and that is enough?
If he'll get baptized and let Mullen post a pic of it on twitter, then I will forgive him. Until then he should ride the pine.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:38 am to Diamondawg
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We shouldn't need a rule to tell us whether or not we should allow admittance to MSU. Admission vs allowed to participate are two different things though and I don't think he should be allowed to participate until the whole thing is settled, all evidence provided and then go from there. The evidence is pretty clear though and I can't think of anything that could possibly justify his doing what he did. If it was a fight he was breaking up, fine. Break it up and separate the two and be done with it.
Can't argue with any of that, but I thought the whole thing was settled in the courts with a misdemeanor. There's no doubt that the video makes it even worse and from the looks of the video, the best thing for Jeffery Simmons is to get away from that culture whether than be at MSU or another institution.
Matt Wyatt made a good point yesterday on Head2Head about how he's made some of his worst decisions when he was mad and IF the story about Simmons's mom and sister getting beat is true, he honestly couldn't say how he would react.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:42 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
IDGAF.
The person Simmons hit once or twice in that video wasn't a woman anyway. I'm not sure what y'all are watching.
The person Simmons hit once or twice in that video wasn't a woman anyway. I'm not sure what y'all are watching.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:43 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
Deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect. The NCAA isn't going away, and OM still has their own woman beater.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:43 am to HailFreezusOver
quote:Redshirt does not mean that you can't participate. Gray shirt - but I suspect he is already on scholarship since he was admitted so that won't work. Unfortunately, they have painted themselves into a corner that includes a PR thing they can't win, except for a certain faction within the MSU fan base will be fine with it.
So you think he should redshirt.
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