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re: James Franklin has a "Chip" on his shoulder.

Posted on 8/2/13 at 6:17 am to
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 6:17 am to
#40's thoughts:

"This muthafricka is NOT black! Gotdammit to hell! First Obama now Franklin! I ain't trustin' nobody to be black no'mo!!"
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 6:19 am
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 6:17 am to
I know Vandy is the best University in the SEC. But their players look like they got off the short bus..look at the photo LOL.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 8:09 am to
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CtotheVrzrbck

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I had to unfollow him on twitter. He's so corny and tries too damn hard.


Have you seen Bert Beilema's twitter....
Posted by King Crimson
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
1024 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 8:53 am to
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Will say this about Vanderbilt...Most underrated team in America


They need to act like other SEC schools and ditch the "student athlete" premise. It's holding them back.
Posted by Bassmanbruno
Member since Dec 2008
1440 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:24 am to
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I know Vandy is the best University in the SEC. But their players look like they got off the short bus..look at the photo LOL.


Because as it stands right now - it's not hard for an athlete to get into Vanderbilt. While this obviously doesn't apply to the whole student body for those that have reading comprehension issues.... Several lower ranked SEC schools have a harder time getting athletes in at the moment.. See UT and Florida.. Probably a couple more.

Also see John Jenkins and his brilliant essay that would be equivalent to the writing of an average 5th grader.
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:26 am
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:25 am to
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to resort to playing the "No respect, underdog" card.



I don't wanna defend Vandy or Franklin - but lets be honest with ourselves - tell me a single football team in this country that doesn't play that card. Every pee wee team does it, every high school team does it, every college and NFL team does it.
Posted by Bassmanbruno
Member since Dec 2008
1440 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:26 am to
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They need to act like other SEC schools and ditch the "student athlete" premise. It's holding them back.


They have under Franklin. Look at his recruiting. And see the rapists.
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:27 am
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:28 am to
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I had to unfollow him on twitter. He's so corny and tries too damn hard.

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Arkansas Fan
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:30 am
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:31 am to
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They need to act like other SEC schools and ditch the "student athlete" premise. It's holding them back.



You don't understand. Vanderbilt doesn't care. I mean their players and coaches do, but the alum and administration doesn't. They are more interested in an education than wins and losses.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:33 am to
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They are more interested in an education than wins and losses.
The horror.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10401 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:35 am to
"Control your breathing"..... wtf? I think I liked "Get your piss hot!" better.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22368 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:37 am to
It will always be difficult for VU to have sustained success, due in large part to a pretty apathetic fanbase... and to the fact that most of their students are not from TN and have no real allegance to the area... their alumni base is also more spread out across the country than most. They aren't even the most popular college in their own town... maybe not even top 2 (I see more bama stuff than Vandy stuff, tbh).

with that said, Vandy has made a commitment to being good at football... they've relaxed admission requirements for their athletes, and they're paying big time salaries to Franklin and have beeen able to hold onto their assistants. They're also building a new indoor practice facility and will eventually renovate/expande Vanderbilt Stadium.

Franklin is a good coach and motivator, IMO... but I don't know if he's got what it takes for longterm consistent success... at some point, the cute gimmicks and tweets go away and you've got to take that next step from being an 8-9 win team to competing for a Conference Championship... i have my doubts he can do that.
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:38 am
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25278 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:38 am to
Franklin is corny and kind of a mouth-breather but his shtick seems to be working.

Vanderbilt is semi-relevant, so he's done an amazing job.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:40 am to
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Franklin is a good coach and motivator, IMO... but I don't know if he's got what it takes for longterm consistent success... at some point, the cute gimmicks and tweets go away and you've got to take that next step from being an 8-9 win team to competing for a Conference Championship... i have my doubts he can do that.

If he manages a string of 8-9 win seasons at Vandy, a big time football school with an open checkbook for pay and football operations will come calling.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25877 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:41 am to
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You don't understand. Vanderbilt doesn't care. I mean their players and coaches do, but the alum and administration doesn't. They are more interested in an education than wins and losses.

In other words, they have their priorities in order.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22368 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:45 am to
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If he manages a string of 8-9 win seasons at Vandy, a big time football school with an open checkbook for pay and football operations will come calling.


see, I don't think anyone can out-bid Vandy... they're paying Franklin over 3 million, supposedly. He might be smart to take another opportunity regardless, but I'm not sure his style would be all that successful at a more established pogram... and some of the dumb things he does he can get away with at Vandy (cold-calling radio shows, stupid tweets, etc).
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6961 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:46 am to
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You don't understand. Vanderbilt doesn't care. I mean their players and coaches do, but the alum and administration doesn't. They are more interested in an education than wins and losses.


In other words, they have their priorities in order.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:48 am to
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due in large part to a pretty apathetic fanbase... and to the fact that most of their students are not from TN and have no real allegance to the area


I somewhat agree with you, but he has done a lot in this regard to energize the fanbase. If they continue to have 7-8-9 win seasons, the fans will come. Plus, if the Titans continue to suck, you'll see more football fans choosing to go to Vandy games = Vandy sidewalk fans

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They aren't even the most popular college in their own town... maybe not even top 2 (I see more bama stuff than Vandy stuff


You see Bama stuff everywhere bc of their recent success. I probably see as much Bama stuff in ATL as I do UGA.

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you've got to take that next step from being an 8-9 win team to competing for a Conference Championship


See MS State.

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If he manages a string of 8-9 win seasons at Vandy, a big time football school with an open checkbook for pay and football operations will come calling.


Not saying this won't happen, but why leave a good thing? If he continues to have the same kind of success, he will have a tremendous legacy at the school. Plus, assuming there aren't more off-field issues, he has job security.
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:49 am
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:49 am to
What's the one black dude looking at?

Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22368 posts
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:52 am to
I just think people are selling short the commitment the university has made to being competitve in football... IMO, franklin is probably getting too much credit for the turnaround when a lot of the pieces are in place for success.
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