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Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:39 pm to randomways
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The fans may have "forgotten" (I assume you mean effectively, not literally) but I assure you the administration hasn't. Two (three?) former administrators are still awaiting trial over their involvement in the scandal. It's still going strong.
For many of them, JoePa has been rehabbed completely and is now the victim of the media.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:44 pm to jumbo
I don't mean to defend Franklin in any way, but the wording of this article strikes me as odd.
It's one thing to call and express concern. Whether that was appropriate or not is certainly up for debate. But the order of the paragraphs make it sound like he was saying "Hey, as soon as you're done getting your vagina swabbed for gang-bang semen, do you think you could get 15 of your hottest, skankiest friends together to help me recruit?"
I have a lot of trouble believing that's how that conversation went down.
It's one thing to call and express concern. Whether that was appropriate or not is certainly up for debate. But the order of the paragraphs make it sound like he was saying "Hey, as soon as you're done getting your vagina swabbed for gang-bang semen, do you think you could get 15 of your hottest, skankiest friends together to help me recruit?"
I have a lot of trouble believing that's how that conversation went down.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:45 pm to randomways
quote:Talk about someone who can't get over the fact that a coach moved on....
Surprisingly, I wouldn't take personal pleasure in him being fired in itself. I'd take pleasure in him being fired for involvement in the rape scandal, if it turns out to be true, but I'd take that same pleasure if he was still our coach. POS don't deserve to be head coaches at D1 universities.
I wouldn't, however, mind in the least if he lost every game he coaches at PSU regardless of whether he was involved. Sure, that'll end up with him getting fired anyway, but it's hardly my fault that football programs demand wins, right?
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:46 pm to randomways
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My perspective is that Penn State isn't just sensitive to, they're hyper-sensitive to negative PR right now, and negative PR involve a coach potentially covering up rape, even indirectly...? If he was just in charge but had no involvement, he's a little iffy but not so iffy PSU wouldn't hire him in the first place. But if he stuck his hand in there afterwards and there's reasonable argument that he knew his involvement could have had a demoralizing effect on the victim or charges being brought? I don't see PSU letting that slide, not with the public relations issues.
Ped State has massive momentum right now in football, new coach that is bringing energy, doing well in recruiting, bowl ban may be reduced. Everything is trending up
Ped State will do everything it can to sweep this under the rug and downplay it. They don't want to ruin the positive momentum they have with their football program
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:49 pm to bamawriter
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I don't mean to defend Franklin in any way, but the wording of this article strikes me as odd.
This defense attorney is shady. I don't wanna defend Franklin either but Vandenburg's attorney is notorious in all the wrong ways. He's slime. You have to take anything coming from his team with a grain of salt even though there have been very strong rumblings about the staff/Franklin being involved. I suspect they were involved in some way but I don't trust the source here.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:49 pm to bamawriter
If it went down anything like that, I suspect it would have been more, "Hey, we consider you an important part of the program. We need you to help us out don'treporttherapeplzthnxs and be a good Vandy fan who doesn'treportrapes cares about us just like we didn'tmeantorapeyou care about you."
If the story is true, timing doesn't matter anyway. The fact that they was claiming to be looking out for her means they knew perfectly well what the situation was, else why would they make a point of checking up on her condition?
If the story is true, timing doesn't matter anyway. The fact that they was claiming to be looking out for her means they knew perfectly well what the situation was, else why would they make a point of checking up on her condition?
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:52 pm to JBeam
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Talk about someone who can't get over the fact that a coach moved on....
We can talk about that if you want. Not sure why it's important to do so, since I expressed no interest in discussing the LSU fanbase, but I'm always amenable to suggestions for spirited conversation.
(I do gather that you took that a bit more seriously than it was intended.)
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:53 pm to randomways
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If the story is true, timing doesn't matter anyway. The fact that they was claiming to be looking out for her means they knew perfectly well what the situation was, else why would they make a point of checking up on her condition?
If they really did 'check on her condition' we know what happened. I doubt you could ever prove it but just doing that check tells me Franklin was trying to influence things. Again *if* this claim is true.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:55 pm to bamawriter
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I don't mean to defend Franklin in any way, but the wording of this article strikes me as odd.
It's one thing to call and express concern. Whether that was appropriate or not is certainly up for debate. But the order of the paragraphs make it sound like he was saying "Hey, as soon as you're done getting your vagina swabbed for gang-bang semen, do you think you could get 15 of your hottest, skankiest friends together to help me recruit?"
I have a lot of trouble believing that's how that conversation went down.
My exact same thought. Poorly written. The key paragraph leaves anyone educated scratching their head.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:46 pm to jumbo
As poorly put together as that article was, I'd like to wait and see on this one. I originally thought Franklin was just a brash, overly confident guy. More and more things are coming out which make it look like he fits the POS mold. Vandenburg's attorney is scum though which doesn't help him. However, that's an incredibly large amount of evidence to be deleted or destroyed. That just looks strange.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:51 pm to DoreonthePlains
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As poorly put together as that article was, I'd like to wait and see on this one. I originally thought Franklin was just a brash, overly confident guy. More and more things are coming out which make it look like he fits the POS mold. Vandenburg's attorney is scum though which doesn't help him. However, that's an incredibly large amount of evidence to be deleted or destroyed. That just looks strange.
I agree with you Dore. That attorney is the only reason I'm not jumping all over Franklin even though I suspect something did happen on the staff/Franklin end of things. This has all been suspected for some time but the attorney is well known to be absolute scum (and I typically defend lawyers from that charge but this one crosses lines and has for many years).
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:58 pm to randomways
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I wouldn't, however, mind in the least if he lost every game he coaches at PSU
That's pretty fricked up. What do the football players at PSU have to do with this? Kind of low to wish that upon them.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 6:55 pm to CNB
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That's pretty fricked up. What do the football players at PSU have to do with this? Kind of low to wish that upon them.
Oh come on, people want teams to lose all the time. No Alabama fan would shed a tear if Auburn went for 0 for whatever span of time, and the vice versa is true. That could be applied to any rivalry. What's the difference if you don't like a coach for shitting on you on the way out the door?
Note: We aren't mad he left. We're mad about HOW he left.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 6:59 pm to CNB
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That's pretty fricked up. What do the football players at PSU have to do with this? Kind of low to wish that upon them.
What kind of pussy attitude is this? I hate everyone and everything about Penetration State.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:02 pm to jumbo
He gone if there is even a grain of truth to any of this.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:08 pm to kywildcatfanone
Penn St. appears a bit worried despite their actual words (we investigated thoroughly!):
Full story: LINK
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Penn State representatives did not immediately respond to requests for comment Tuesday.
Franklin said repeatedly said he was “not interested in talking,” when reached by the Nashville newspaper.
On the heels of the Jerry Sandusky scandal that rocked the university, Penn State officials were questioned about Franklin’s connection with the Vanderbilt case at Franklin’s introductory press conference in early January. There, Penn State President Rodney Erickson described the vetting process as “the most thorough ... that any individual has gone through at the university.” Erickson and Director of Athletics Dave Joyner said Penn State performed a deep background search on Franklin and asked intense interview questions of “multiple, independent, third-party sources.” What they found satisfied them and the other members of Penn State’s search committee tasked with finding a new coach.
Meanwhile, Penn State athletics integrity officer Julie Del Giorno, Vice President and General Counsel Steve Dunham, and Frank Guadagnino, a partner with the Pittsburgh firm of Reed Smith and counsel to the university, were part of the vetting process. Erickson said NCAA-appointed athletics integrity monitor George Mitchell’s team was consulted.
“I’ve responded to some people who’ve said, ‘I sure hope you’ve done your due diligence,” Joyner said in early January. “And I’ve told them, ‘Trust me. We have done a very thorough vetting of this and we feel comfortable with the situation.’ We’re very, very careful and very methodical about doing that.”
Still, Penn State officials and Franklin himself acknowledged the coach still could be called to testify when the trial begins.
Full story: LINK
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:37 pm to Prof
More evidence that vandy is honestly trying to step up their game in the SEC.
Pay attention vols.
Pay attention vols.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:38 pm to Prof
Doesn't appear to much more than a last ditch effort by a desperate defense attorney.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:56 pm to CNB
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That's pretty fricked up. What do the football players at PSU have to do with this? Kind of low to wish that upon them.
Seriously? I was talking about Franklin losing, and wasn't talking very seriously at that. Yes, that would mean the kids lose too, but getting your arse chapped by a thorough accounting of how it would work rather than just taking the comment in the spirit it was intended is just silly.
If you prefer, think of it as me wishing great success for all the kids on teams playing against Franklin's PSU. So in reality, I'm actually hoping for an outcome that benefits 12 entire teams rather than just PSU's team. Why do you hate all those other teams, anyway?
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