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re: Jalen Hurts is 20-1 as the QB for Bama.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:28 pm to YStar
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:28 pm to YStar
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I know why you hate him. He came from behind and shat on your faces last year.
I don't hate him. I actually like him more than most players. He seems really nice. But I actually watch the games.
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:29 pm to GnashRebel
Exactly. It isn't that Hurts is average. It is that he fricking sucks. All of those weapons and he is only good for 100 yds per game in the air. The bad thing though is all of the dumbass gumps that are ok with it or even try to tell us he is a good quarterback. Unbelievable.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:30 pm to BamaNatureBoy
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Jalen Hurts is 20-1 as the QB for Bama.
Due to Bama's skill at other places, he is a pedestrian thrower and a RB in a QB shoes, without the talent around him he would be on the bench.9
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:30 pm to GnashRebel
I know.
You watched him come from behind and shite on the best Ole Miss in history last year.
Then you watched him shite on you again for an entire half this year.
Hurts has hurt you.
You watched him come from behind and shite on the best Ole Miss in history last year.
Then you watched him shite on you again for an entire half this year.
Hurts has hurt you.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:30 pm to Commander Data
Refute the stats he just provided ystar and tell us how great he is.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:30 pm to BamaNatureBoy
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Jalen Hurts is 20-1 as the QB for Bama.
Due to Bama's skill at other places, he is a pedestrian thrower and a RB in a QB shoes, without the talent around him he would be on the bench.9
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:30 pm to ipodking
quote:...but they damn sure ain't losing them because of him...can y'all say that?
Bama isn't winning games because of Qb play
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:33 pm to Commander Data
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Exactly. It isn't that Hurts is average. It is that he fricking sucks. All of those weapons and he is only good for 100 yds per game in the air. The bad thing though is all of the dumbass gumps that are ok with it or even try to tell us he is a good quarterback. Unbelievable.
You are the Weather Channel - Hurts Sucks on the 8s
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
To be honest Bama's success with Hurts is impressive exactly because of his limitations. In an era where teams are so dependent on quarterback play to be successful, Bama has managed to dominate almost every other facet of the game, minus maybe defensive back play, and won a ton of games.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:37 pm to BamaNatureBoy
Nope.
Although Steven Johnson is 12-4 his last 16 regular season games.
Although Steven Johnson is 12-4 his last 16 regular season games.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:38 pm to GnashRebel
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To be honest Bama's success with Hurts is impressive exactly because of his limitations. In an era where teams are so dependent on quarterback play to be successful, Bama has managed to dominate almost every other facet of the game, minus maybe defensive back play, and won a ton of games.
Eh, I don't agree. Hurts has limitations, that is undeniable. However, Hurts makes almost no mistakes, creates scenarios that make receivers and backs more open than they would be due to his threat with the run and creates explosive plays with his legs quite frequently. He has faults, some of which have gradually gotten better and some of which have not, but he's still a solid college quarterback. And I can guarantee that if his legs were taken away and someone else inserted without his legs that we will all of a sudden notice the things that his legs opened up for everything else.
I don't think it's a coincidence that we are averaging 7 YPC on the ground. Our offensive line is good, but it's not 2012 good. And, again, he doesn't turn the ball over. When you can get chunk plays when the O-line breaks down, hold a LB for 3 seconds on a QB read play to create a gap for your back AND you don't give them good field position with silly mistakes? That by itself gives us a great chance to win.
With all of that said, Tua should and will get every chance to win the QB job this offseason, regardless of how we finish. Hurts passing has not progressed as much as I would have hoped (it has some, but not enough IMHO) and Tua will get a shot to prove that his legs/arm combo gives us more options.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
To be honest, I’m happy as hell that Saban has built a program that consistently competes for championships and that failure or success of his team doesn’t hinge on a fricking QB. Other head coaches should take note, don’t put all of your eggs in one basket.....spread the wealth, spread the talent, develop every player.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:40 pm to GnashRebel
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I don't hate him. I actually like him more than most players. He seems really nice. But I actually watch the games.
I agree with this. Seems like a pretty good kid. He's a hell of an athlete. He's just not a great passing QB. But it doesn't matter because so far, Bama hasn't needed him to be.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:41 pm to GnashRebel
Bingo!...kid has ZERO lost fumbles and ZERO interceptions this season while being just about the same guy game in and game out.
Baker Mayfield lost his game yesterday because he was trying to win the Heisman, not the GAME....that ain't gonna happen with Hurts.
Baker Mayfield lost his game yesterday because he was trying to win the Heisman, not the GAME....that ain't gonna happen with Hurts.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:42 pm to AshLSU
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He's a hell of an athlete
He is and he has incredible poise. If he played for Georgia Tech or Navy then all of us would sing his praises.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Hurts makes almost no mistakes
I agree with this. It is his best attribute.
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Hurts makes almost no mistakes, creates scenarios that make receivers and backs more open than they would be due to his threat with the run and creates explosive plays with his legs quite frequently.
I think the reason he runs so well is because he is a good runner combined with a line that gives the receivers more time to run routes than any O-line in college football. It also spreads the field and allows him to run. If he was at Vanderbilt he would be killed.
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I don't think it's a coincidence that we are averaging 7 YPC on the ground. Our offensive line is good, but it's not 2012 good.
It is still clearly the best O-line in the country with massive bruisers running behind. It is absurd to attribute that success to a guy who they gameplan to throw for less than 100 yards.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:47 pm to coachcrisp
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Bingo!...kid has ZERO lost fumbles and ZERO interceptions this season while being just about the same guy game in and game out.
Baker Mayfield lost his game yesterday because he was trying to win the Heisman, not the GAME....that ain't gonna happen with Hurts.
Good God this is tedious. Oklahoma RELIES on Mayfield to win them games. He is going to give the ball away sometimes. Bama asks Hurts not to lose them games. That doesn't indicate that the player that carries less of a burden is better.
Mayfield has thrown for 5500 yards over the last season and a half. Hurts has throw for 3500. Hurts is the embodiment of the don't frick it up player.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:48 pm to GnashRebel
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It is still clearly the best O-line in the country
I don't agree. We got whipped at the point of attack by FSU and at best got taken to a draw by A&M last night. We have a few studs but we also have a few guys that can either be on or off, and depending on that we are either mashing folks or in a stalemate.
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It is absurd to attribute that success to a guy who they gameplan to throw for less than 100 yards.
I'd like to see Jalen complete more throws, especially down the field, but you are talking about these games like they were disasters offensively and Jalen couldn't complete a pass.
vs Vanderbilt : 78 yards passing on 17 attempts (we ran for 496)
vs Ole Miss : 197 yards passing on 19 attempts (we ran for 365)
vs Texas A&M : 123 yards passing on 22 attempts (we ran for 232)
So, I don't think the gameplan was for Jalen to throw for 40 yards. But I do think that once we ran (especially the first 2) and saw little resistance, we were going to keep running. And at that point nobody really gave a shite how many yards Jalen threw for. And in the 3rd one, we were up 24-3 and then holding on and running clock.
Jalen is a below average passer. He's also the best running quarterback in the country. The idea that he is asked to "not frick it up" treats him like he is Greg McElroy. That's just kind of silly.
He is what he is - below average passer and great runner who avoids mistakes and has the ability to make big plays but can also make you scratch your head on an open 12 yard out route. He's Nick Marshall and/or JT Barrett.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:52 pm to GnashRebel
That’s a good point and all but Mayfield lost the game for his team. Time and time again he got selfish on plays.
Hurts is a team player and doesn’t lose us games. He is also clutch and came through in times of need as did many other players. That’s called Football. We don’t need a guy who passes for 300 a game with our rushing attack. It was proven last night. Even with every possible problem imaginable.
Hurts is a team player and doesn’t lose us games. He is also clutch and came through in times of need as did many other players. That’s called Football. We don’t need a guy who passes for 300 a game with our rushing attack. It was proven last night. Even with every possible problem imaginable.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The OP suggested Hurts was the best QB in the SEC.
I what universe would you quote these stats to indicate he is a good quarterback? WHy can't your fans be happy to have the best team without attributing ability to a player who wouldn't start at a lot of teams.
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vs Vanderbilt : 78 yards passing on 17 attempts (we ran for 496)
vs Ole Miss : 197 yards passing on 19 attempts (we ran for 365)
vs Texas A&M : 123 yards passing on 22 attempts (we ran for 232)
I what universe would you quote these stats to indicate he is a good quarterback? WHy can't your fans be happy to have the best team without attributing ability to a player who wouldn't start at a lot of teams.
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