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re: It's time for Pinkel to go.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:05 am to the808bass
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:05 am to the808bass
I've seen some really great Mizzou offenses. It's just hard to believe this is all Pinkel could come up with this year.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:05 am to scrooster
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If that truly is Pinkel's Achilles heel, it is something that might only be remedied by cutting the head coach loose and getting someone else in there who actually does demand excellence from his staff.
If you can remember our clown shoes offense of 2012 with our 8 foot splits on the Oline, Pinkel refused to fire the OC. I suspect the OC quit rather than be one of the main reasons Pinkel was getting pressure from the AD. The OC said he was quitting to spend more time with his family and then took a job at Wazzu a month later.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:05 am to scrooster
You bring valid points.
However, I don't care about basketball, baseball, or anything else.
I just don't.
You guys have a great baseball team, and that's great.
I just don't give a frick about us having one though.
Nor do I give a shite about volleyball, softball, wrestling, or Asians playing with the shuttlecock.
Call me half assed if you want, but I want football to succeed.
I really don't care about anything else.
However, I don't care about basketball, baseball, or anything else.
I just don't.
You guys have a great baseball team, and that's great.
I just don't give a frick about us having one though.
Nor do I give a shite about volleyball, softball, wrestling, or Asians playing with the shuttlecock.
Call me half assed if you want, but I want football to succeed.
I really don't care about anything else.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 12:07 am
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:06 am to beaverfever
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I've seen some really great Mizzou offenses. It's just hard to believe this is all Pinkel could come up with this year.
Well, our OC is an LSU product. So, we shouldn't be surprised.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:16 am to Remote Controlled
I mean it can be done but it's not easy to get someone to make that move, especially when Pinkel is a safe choice to stick with. A lot of those financial commitments need to happen regardless of who the coach is if y'all want to go on to another level. Is your AD the kinda guy who can sway donors to invest?
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:20 am to Remote Controlled
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You bring valid points.
However, I don't care about basketball, baseball, or anything else.
I just don't.
You guys have a great baseball team, and that's great.
I just don't give a frick about us having one though.
Nor do I give a shite about volleyball, softball, wrestling, or Asians playing with the shuttlecock.
Call me half assed if you want, but I want football to succeed.
I really don't care about anything else.
Well ... you gotta be good at something in this league. It helps you with the other sports.
SEC football, and remember this is coming from someone who has been watching SEC football since the late 50s - early sixties ... but SEC football is a tough nut to crack consistently. Especially for the mid tier programs like SCAR, Mizzou, Arkansas, etc. We all wanna be football powerhouses every year but it will never happen in the SEC. Georgia should be - yet they are unable to do it. Look at what happened to Tennessee when they blinked. Kentucky and MSU have never really done it and Ole Miss has not done it since Vaught was there when I was a kid. Auburn is another example ... they are fricking schizophrenic. A&M ... they have the best chance to do something and climb the ladder consistently but they can't get out of the way of themselves. LSU and Bama, Florida ... we'll likely never be able to do it as consistently as they do ... and look what happened to Florida as well, although they can bounce back easier, as can Tennessee if Tennessee had not had the shitty leadership in Hamilton at the time. Foley is for real -Florida was never going to stay down for long after Spurrier showed them how to win championships.
If you believe Mizzou can compete at the highest level on the gridiron year in and year out in this conference ... then you are going to be disappointed eight out of ten seasons.
So get really good at something else ... and enjoy the ride.
SCAR is giving us good basketball again beginning this year. And you're right, we've got baseball and we absolutely demand excellent from our baseball program. But football ... endeavor to win championships but expect to be happy with 8, 9, 10 win seasons for the most part. 11 win seasons are extra good.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:20 am to Prof
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It's time for Pinkel to go.
Are you an Idiot or do you just portray one on the Rant? He's coming off 2 back 2 back Eastern Division Titles.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:20 am to DawgGone
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Are you an Idiot or do you just portray one on the Rant? He's coming off 2 back 2 back Eastern Division Titles.
Why did you quote that like it was me?
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 12:21 am
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:35 am to Remote Controlled
I haven't read a post yet, but be careful what you wish for. Pinkle might not be a great coach, but he's definitely a pretty good coach. Missouri is a relatively big state, but there are limitations there with recruiting, budget, and name recognition compared to the big boys and Pinkle has won pretty consistently there.
A really bad coach can make Florida or LSU irrelevant so the bottom for Mizzou is probably a little lower and lot harder to climb out of.
Unless a great coach in the making is the next hire, it probably won't get any better and is more than likely going to get worse.
A really bad coach can make Florida or LSU irrelevant so the bottom for Mizzou is probably a little lower and lot harder to climb out of.
Unless a great coach in the making is the next hire, it probably won't get any better and is more than likely going to get worse.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:39 am to scrooster
I get your point.
However I was brought up on two things.
Cardinals baseball and Mizzou football.
I spent my childhood with the radio tuned to KMOX listening to cards games in the summer and Mizzou games in the fall.
One team was almost always good, the other almost always sucked.
I just accepted that.
Now I'm older and demand perfection from both teams dammit.
Blah, blah, blah. Let's get it over with fire Pinkel, let's move on.
However I was brought up on two things.
Cardinals baseball and Mizzou football.
I spent my childhood with the radio tuned to KMOX listening to cards games in the summer and Mizzou games in the fall.
One team was almost always good, the other almost always sucked.
I just accepted that.
Now I'm older and demand perfection from both teams dammit.
Blah, blah, blah. Let's get it over with fire Pinkel, let's move on.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:40 am to Guess
Worse than 4-8?
Worse than 1-7 in SEC play?
Worse than not scoring a TD for three games?
Worse than scoring 3 rushing touchdowns 9 games into the season?
Worse than being statistically the worst offense in FBS football?
Let us know what to expect. TIA
Worse than 1-7 in SEC play?
Worse than not scoring a TD for three games?
Worse than scoring 3 rushing touchdowns 9 games into the season?
Worse than being statistically the worst offense in FBS football?
Let us know what to expect. TIA
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:42 am to Guess
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Pinkle
frick off.
You don't know your arse from Mars.
If I wanted an opinion about "Pinkle" I'd have asked my wife.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:44 am to the808bass
Don't expect to hire anyone who can ever get you back to back east titles and 11 and 12 win seasons.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:45 am to genro
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:49 am to genro
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Don't expect to hire anyone who can ever get you back to back east titles and 11 and 12 win seasons.
We DGAF what you want us to think.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:07 am to the808bass
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Worse than 4-8?
Worse than 1-7 in SEC play?
Worse than not scoring a TD for three games?
Worse than scoring 3 rushing touchdowns 9 games into the season?
Worse than being statistically the worst offense in FBS football?
Let us know what to expect. TIA
Yes in the 90's LSU was pretty close to that level, but of course it took hiring a coach who can't even win at the highschool level today to get there. I still have no idea how Curly could have been that bad and still won at USM even with Farve. If Mizzou makes a mistake and hires a Curly you might quit watching college football because it's probably going to take multiple decades to get out of that hole.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 1:09 am
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:23 am to Remote Controlled
Missouri is lucky to have Pinkel
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:53 am to Remote Controlled
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Mizzou - the next level.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:20 am to genro
You need to realize how lucky you are. Missouri is not even remotely near a blue blood program. What he has done there is remarkable. Are you dumb enough to think you should be in playoffs? He's your best bet at your average school. Name the last non big six to win the SEC? You aren't that level...so you should be kissing the arse of the man who got you to Atlanta. Twice none the less. With far less talent than basically everyone but Vandy. You aren't a power...and you won't be. You have no recruiting pull in Missouri so you have to out coach to win. Pink has proven he can. And he stayed loyal to Missouri. A bad year after two insanely good years and you want to fire him? You are a dumb fan. At best you'll get a great coach...for two years before he leaves for a blue blood. Considering a none blue blood program hasn't won a title since 1990...good luck with those two years being better than 13 or 14.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 3:28 am
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