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re: It was tough watching Grier speak

Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:13 pm to
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It is a growth opportunity.

thats what he thought about the Ligandrol
Posted by Mizzourah2006
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Nov 2013
289 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:14 pm to
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We even had our own protein provided for us because most protein shakes were illegal because they had too great of a protein to carb ratio


This. They are collegiate athletes, they can't take even give them creatine, of course they can't take designer steroids whether they are "legal" or not. I worked with college athletes when I was in grad school, they are explicitly told to not take any supplements that aren't provided by the university athletic department. Andro was legal when Mark McGwire got caught taking it.

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that fricking sucks, man. Just watched the presser. Anything OTC should be legal as far as I'm concerned. That's BS, feel sorry for the guy.


These are designer steroids that have 1-2 different chemical mutations that when inserted into the body revert to the main chemical, which is usually an illegal anabolic. A drug test would flag it as abnormally high testosterone, just like injecting test would. The only reason they are OTC is because supplements aren't FDA regulated, so it takes the FDA a little while to find out they are out there and ban them. It will be banned in a year or two and slightly different version will be produced which will start the cycle all over again. Think Andro.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:14 pm to
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I promise you, these student athletes are educated on this shite. They KNOW what's right and what's wrong.

There are so many supplements out there I doubt they give them a massive list about what they can and can't take. They players are told however, that if they do want to take their own supplements they need to get it approved by the medical staff. Grier didn't do that and now he is paying the consequences. I do feel for the kid because I doubt he was trying to cheat by taking this.

I think it took balls for him to stand in front of the camera and apologize publicly and I respect him for that. I hope that other athletes see this and learn from his mistakes before taking any over the counter supplements.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:14 pm to
It's ligandrol. You can't even buy it at gnc
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:15 pm to
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It's marketed as having all of the pros of steroids but only limited side effects.


Which in the supplement industry means exactly nothing LOL. My arse this shite gives you "all of the pros of steroids", that is just comical. This stuff will turn out to be just like all the other "miracle supplements" that the supplement industry has rolled out over the years as "the safe, legal equivalent of steroids!": pure bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 2:16 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34045 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:17 pm to
The flu excuse is absolute BS. UF has Shands on campus, so team Physicians are right there. He is well aware if you put anything for flu in your mouth you go to training staff. Grier got busted. If one's doing it, more are doing it.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:21 pm to
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Coach shouldn't have called him up to speak. Could tell he was upset.



He wanted to speak it seemed like. Mac didn't call him up to put him on the spot.
Posted by TrueMizzou
Member since Jan 2014
234 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:21 pm to
So the guy put on 47 pounds of muscle in one year and thought nothing was amiss.

Okay...
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18799 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Where's the link to the presser?



LINK
Posted by tigerbait56
somewhere
Member since Sep 2015
142 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:23 pm to
He is a piece of ignorant shite!
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7014 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

quote:
It is a growth opportunity.

thats what he thought about the Ligandrol


Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51131 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:26 pm to
if by tough, you mean hilarious, then yeah. frick him and frick everyone trying to spin this. he cheated, he got caught. end of story.
Posted by Mizzourah2006
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Nov 2013
289 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:28 pm to
crazy low half-life for an orally administered supplement/drug. No wonder he thought he'd get away with it. Most common injectable forms of test have half-life's of 7-10 days.
Posted by JaboStokes
Member since Nov 2008
1865 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:30 pm to
Looked like a whipped pup. He was most unimpressive.
Posted by gatorguru
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2014
333 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:31 pm to
he's not 215..he addressed that earlier in the season and said that number was exaggerated. I believe he said he was around 205.



Which is about 30 pounds of weight in TWO Full years of college and he was an early enrollee. Also, anyone following this team would know how much this group has benefited from the new strength coach that McElwain brought in.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8619 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:33 pm to
Granted, I played almost 30 years ago but UF never, ever gave me a supplement. ALL Rice, beens, steak and eggs...
Posted by TheRaid
Currently Living in South Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1304 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:36 pm to
Florida is back....
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:53 pm to
Didn't he gain something like 40 or 45 pounds in a calendar year because of this PED? He should've known that wouldn't fly too well with the NCAA.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 2:53 pm
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