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It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:50 pm
It is also factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated against good teams and Daniels was 0-3 or 1-4.
It is also factually incorrect to say that Penix "won when everything was on the line" and Daniels did not.
I don't have a dog in that fight but, those are stupid narratives and that kind of sophistry should have nothing to do with the award because it only serves to cheapen it and cfb as a whole.
It is also factually incorrect to say that Penix "won when everything was on the line" and Daniels did not.
I don't have a dog in that fight but, those are stupid narratives and that kind of sophistry should have nothing to do with the award because it only serves to cheapen it and cfb as a whole.
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:51 pm to TheQuestion
It is factually incorrect to say this is a good post.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:53 pm to TheQuestion
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It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:53 pm to TheQuestion
You're special.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:54 pm to AHM21
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It is factually incorrect to say this is a good post.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:55 pm to AHM21
fpbp
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:01 pm to KurtSchrute
These responses. 
One person makes no point. The next is a snowflake who doesn't understand what a fact is. The next has to fall back to the obligatory ad hominem.
You can go back to watching the monster truck rally show now
One person makes no point. The next is a snowflake who doesn't understand what a fact is. The next has to fall back to the obligatory ad hominem.
You can go back to watching the monster truck rally show now
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:08 pm to TheQuestion
Yep, Bowers deserves the award because he’s the best offensive player in college football, imo.
Given the choice of any player offensively for my team I’d pick him. He would be instantly the best player on our team.
Given the choice of any player offensively for my team I’d pick him. He would be instantly the best player on our team.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:08 pm to TheQuestion
Did you happen to notice how Daniels performed in the loses?
Not exactly his fault LSU has a Swiss cheese defense. It’s a performance award. Plenty of guys with three loses have won the award.
Get it now?
Not exactly his fault LSU has a Swiss cheese defense. It’s a performance award. Plenty of guys with three loses have won the award.
Get it now?
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:21 pm to AHM21
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It is factually incorrect to say this is a good post.
God damn what a good post.
Yours not the OPs.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:42 pm to TheQuestion
Quarterbacks are judged on wins/losses just like starting pitchers in baseball. Like it or not, that’s the way it is. Daniels simply couldn’t overcome the terrible defensive play and bad coaching from his team. Just another case of a great player on a bad team
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:46 pm to TheQuestion
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It is factually incorrect to say that Penix was undefeated and Daniels lost 3 games
It is factually incorrect to say you are not mentally retarded.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:55 pm to FoTownBam
quote:You're making my point for me. Very few people don't know that win/loss for starting pitcher is one of the WORST ways to evaluate a pitcher. Just like it's idiotic to judge Daniels/Nix/Penix by the way their TEAM performed. None of them played all 22 positions on every snap. It's a completely stupid way to evaluate them.
Quarterbacks are judged on wins/losses just like starting pitchers in baseball
quote:So because a bunch of stupid people say something stupid, don't state facts to set the record straight. That's what you're advocating?
Like it or not, that’s the way it is
quote:Neither did Penix/Nix make their defenses play better. What a dumb statement.
Daniels simply couldn’t overcome the terrible defensive play and bad coaching from his team
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Just another case of a great player on a bad team
"bad" teamPosted on 12/8/23 at 10:56 pm to FoTownBam
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Quarterbacks are judged on wins/losses just like starting pitchers in baseball. Like it or not, that’s the way it is.
Only by morons.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:56 pm to artompkins
quote:Yet another obligatory insult. Tell me what I said that's incorrect
It is factually incorrect to say you are not mentally retarded
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:01 pm to TheQuestion
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Tell me what I said that's incorrect
He can't. He will try though.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:10 pm to lsunutinno
quote:I did. It seems to me that some people are not being objective because they just can't stand to see an SEC rival do well. Daniels was clearly, far and away the better player.
Did you happen to notice how Daniels performed in the loses?
SEC fans want to say the SEC is the toughest conference. Daniels had the better numbers in the tougher conference. It's no contest. Trying to smuggle in team accomplishments is childish.
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:44 pm to TheQuestion
SEC was garbage this year
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:44 pm to TheQuestion
Not sure why it matters. Jd will win the heisman. A lot of times they don’t give every single award to the eventual heisman winner. It’s kinda rare to have a clean sweep of the awards qualified for by anyone
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:56 pm to ColoradoAg
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SEC was garbage this year
Based on what?
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