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re: Is there anyone who thinks AU shouldnt claim 2004?

Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:16 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:16 am to
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Exactly.


Apples and oranges.

You played and lost a game.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:16 am to
Actually, I think the 1983 Auburn team has a much better claim than 2004...although in 2004, Auburn should've been playing USC instead of Oklahoma...

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On a neutral field, 2004 USC beats 2004 Auburn 45-10
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doubt it but we will never know. probably one of AUs most complete teams in the BCS era



While I tend to think that the Trojans would've won if USC and Auburn had matched up that year, I think it would've been much closer than that. The reason I would've favored USC is that the two previous years, USC had swept a home and away series with Auburn (24-17 in LA, 23-0 at JHS) and both teams had many of the same players. However, that is not an ultimate determiner of games and Auburn would've had a much better chance than Oklahoma...their defense could've kept it closer and they might've had a chance to pull the upset...
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 11:17 am
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:17 am to
"The best team got stripped of their title, and the team that played against them in the championship game didn't win...so WE'RE THE CHAMPS!"

And then it's off to laugh at the gumps for claiming questionable titles...


Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:18 am to
my view is that we should not. hosed we may have been, but we didn't get to play for it - so we don't get to claim it.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:18 am to
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Is there anyone who thinks AU shouldnt claim 2004?


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AU finished #2


Not much else really needs to be said.
Posted by All4Qtrs
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:18 am to
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"The best team got stripped of their title, and the team that played against them in the championship game didn't win...so WE'RE THE CHAMPS!"


Just out of curiosity, who are you quoting?

ETA: this thread is to see who doesnt think we should. I dont, but i notice a number of other fans from different fanbases who think we should.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 11:20 am
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:18 am to
I can respect that view
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:18 am to
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If multiple publications can give titles in 2003, why cant they in 1983 or 1993?


I never said they couldnt. Again, you asked who says USC won the 2004 title and I told you. Either you are being obtuse or moving goalposts
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:19 am to
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Dont get me wrong based on OoC Opp those 2 definitely deserved to be there
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OU
BowlGrn 40-24


We had BGSU on our schedule that year, they backed out in the summer, we scrambled and scheduled citadel
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:19 am to
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I never said they couldnt.


So they can.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:20 am to
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seriously, there is not a Champ for that year. AU finished #2, with USC vacated that only leaves AU at the top. Its the only other one i think we have a legit claim to. Curious to what rant thinks



So USC vacates, but Auburn wants to go ahead and make their victory against Oklahoma stand since it made them #2? Makes sense to me.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:21 am to
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with USC vacated that only leaves AU at the top.


Why not Utah? They were also undefeated after the 04 season
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:21 am to
quote:

"The best team got stripped of their title, and the team that played against them in the championship game didn't win...so WE'RE THE CHAMPS!" And then it's off to laugh at the gumps for claiming questionable titles


Well we haven't claimed 2004. The thread is questioning if we should but no one outside of a message board poster is claiming it.

So there's a difference.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:22 am to
Solid point. If USC technically didn't beat OU then they should still be #2 and AU #3. Although USC vacated, not forfeited, so Oklahoma technically lost the Orange Bowl to nobody. The NCAA is awesome.
Posted by All4Qtrs
tCapitol
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:22 am to
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Why not Utah?




didnt know they had a team.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:23 am to
You going to give up 2010 when Cam comes clean on the money you gave him?
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:23 am to
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So USC vacates, but Auburn wants to go ahead and make their victory against Oklahoma stand since it made them #2? Makes sense to me.


c'mon you guys know how vacating wins work. Loses that a team received at the hand of the infracting team stand, but the infracting team vacates any wins.

That's putting a fine point on it...because i agree...we should never claim that title.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:25 am to
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We had BGSU on our schedule that year, we backed out in the summer, we scrambled and scheduled citadel



Posted by LSUFOREVERAMEN
Illinois
Member since Dec 2013
1300 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:25 am to
Auburn is pushing their limit by even contemplating 1983, 1993, or 2004.

Just retroactively claim 1913. It equalizes yourself against LSU and Florida and takes the lead against Georgia.

If you claim 1983 or 2004 or whatver, you're only diluting your school's legacy. Just claim 1913 and be done with it.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:26 am to
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you're only diluting your school's legacy


Our legacy of cheating and being dirty?

I think it strengthens it.
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