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re: Is there any other team besides LSbrokeassU that would ask their coach to pay back 1 mil

Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:15 pm to
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He genuinely believes you can just tell (not even ask) the state auditor “our bad, we are just going to reclassify that as a bonus” and they’ll agree, high five, and go grab lunch together.


You claimed to deal with audits all the time. So, in your experience what are the chances of 78,000+ payments made to head football coaches all being exactly what they are supposed to be?
No let’s add in offensive and defensive coordinators. That’s another 156k+ payments to audit. How have all of those payment all been exactly right for the last 50 years?
Did LSU make the dumbest payment error of the last 50 years or has every other school just let
Their coaches keep the money?
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:17 pm to
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In the last 50 years the other 130+ programs have never reported an overpayment


How do you know this to be true?
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:18 pm to
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You can’t tell auditors what you are going to do.


Just because your role doesn’t have the power to tell auditors in your field(which may not even relate to payroll audits) what do you assume no in any position with any company can tell an auditor what to do? I’m sure there’s never been a Louisiana state auditor whose palm has been greased to make a change on a report. Sure.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14987 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:19 pm to
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In overpayment after a 10 win season? Could you imagine how awkward that conversation would be with your head coach? I think most SEC teams would’ve just made it a bonus but if you did get it back it would be on the end of the contract.


Wasn't it not too long ago that Tennessee asked for a refund from Pruitt?
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:26 pm to
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Even beating Saybun is not that big a deal these days.

Yeah. Didn’t look like a big deal when your fans rushed the field. Your players seemed to take the win in stride too.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:26 pm to
Here you go you dumbass.

The state of Florida audit determined that USF overpaid Skip Holtz and other employees. The original audit said the school needed to pay the state back just the amount they overpaid from the state fund. The Auditor General said that was stupid and they just need to do a better job in the future. LSU you are more broke than USF.

USF let Skip Holtz keep his overpayment after he left the school.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:27 pm to
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Wasn't it not too long ago that Tennessee asked for a refund from Pruitt?


Yes. After he was fired. Not while he was their active coach.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 11:28 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:27 pm to
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Actually a fair point.


I thought you'd like that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:28 pm to
You are assuming this has never occurred just because you… googled.

It is almost a certainty that this has happened before and just simply didn’t make headlines.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:29 pm to
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You are assuming this has never occurred just because you… googled. It is almost a certainty that this has happened before and just simply didn’t make headlines.


Look 3 posts above your post before you make yourself look even stupider.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 11:29 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:29 pm to
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Just because your role doesn’t have the power to tell auditors in your field(which may not even relate to payroll audits)


There is no role that allows anyone to tell a state auditor what to do, legally.

We can agree there.

Are you implying LSU should have broken the law as opposed to working it out with Kelly?

And yes my role, peripherally, deals with payroll audits all the time. As well as revenue.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 11:31 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66735 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:34 pm to
Don’t spend all night searching for it.

That would be really fricking pathetic
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:36 pm to
dude, no one is saying you can’t explain a situation to an auditor. That’s quite literally what the process is for, to some degree.

Nuance and context are important

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Auditors also took issue with the $2.5 million over five years that Holtz is being paid after he was fired a year ago. University employees' severance pay can't exceed 20 weeks of compensation, according to state law. However, USF has contended the money is for damages, as spelled out in Holtz's contract — not severance. The millions are required because Holtz was fired without cause, USF replied.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:47 pm to
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dude, no one is saying you can’t explain a situation to an auditor. That’s quite literally what the process is for, to some degree.


You claimed earlier that nothing could be done about it but now after I show you proof that USF of all schools did get the auditors to waiver the requirement to repay you now claim there’s of course a process where it could be done. Lol

Three questions for you:

1. Why didn’t LSU use this process to get the State of Louisiana to waive it?
2. I assume you read the whole article I posted that you are referencing. So, you did see where the State of Florida only audited the part of the money that the State of Florida paid right?
3. The State of Louisiana only paid 400k of the money so why did LSU make Kelly pay back the entire 1.1million?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66735 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:56 pm to
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You claimed earlier that nothing could be done about it but now after I show you proof that USF of all schools did get the auditors to waiver the requirement to repay you now claim there’s of course a process where it could be done. Lol


No you didn’t.

You think you did, because you’re an idiot.

quote:

Auditors also took issue with the $2.5 million over five years that Holtz is being paid after he was fired a year ago. University employees' severance pay can't exceed 20 weeks of compensation, according to state law.

However, USF has contended the money is for damages, as spelled out in Holtz's contract — not severance. The millions are required because Holtz was fired without cause, USF replied.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 11:58 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52910 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 12:08 am to
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Why didn’t LSU use this process to get the State of Louisiana to waive it?


Let me see if I can dumb it down for you.

Let's examine your article:

quote:

However, USF has contended the money is for damages, as spelled out in Holtz's contract — not severance. The millions are required because Holtz was fired without cause, USF replied.


USF is explaining to the state that the "overpayment" is Holtz' buyout since he was fired without cause, as stated in his contract.

Brian Kelly's overpayment was an error and not covered in his contract.

Does that help?
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29136 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:10 am to
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Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29136 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:11 am to
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10 win seasons are expected at LSU since the program started in 2001 Gumptard.


FIFY
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11397 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:25 am to
You fricking gump own nothing. You living off gubment dime with the retard early….amirite
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
3644 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:38 am to
well to begin with, the school doesn't actually pay the coaches salary, but you're from Bama so I wouldn't expect you to understand that. so enjoy that Bama decline and keep LSU on your mind 24/7.
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