re: Is Saban the best at getting the most out of his players?

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recruiting classes that are hired by Alabama

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Imagine if Bert wins 3 SEC games next year. You'll probably build him a statue.

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BlackPawnMartyr

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You're absolutely right about that piece of mule dung. That dude is FOS, always has been.

Depends on the intent of the question.

Not many guys besides Saban are able to recruit a bunch of elite prospects AND get them to play as a cohesive unit. In that regard, he's one of the best and probably best among active coaches.

It's actually easier to put together a list of guys who should be doing a lot more with the talent they have.

If you mean getting the most out of less-than-elite players, I'd say that Saban drops back a bit in favor of guys like Bill Snyder, Gary Pinkel, David Cutcliffe, and probably a few others.

Do you think he hasn't improved as a coach in the last 20 years?

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Do you think he hasn't improved as a coach in the last 20 years?

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He moved his way to Alabama - I'd say he's certainly learned where he can be successful as a coach.

Do you think the last 20 years has given him the experience necessary to go back to Michigan State and turn them into a dynasty?

Shula wasn't that bad of f a recruiter was he? His 10 Win season he was just getting his guys there certainly no Saban of course. Or did Shula really recruit bad?

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Is Saban the best at getting the most out of his players? Depends on the intent of the question. Not many guys besides Saban are able to recruit a bunch of elite prospects AND get them to play as a cohesive unit. In that regard, he's one of the best and probably best among active coaches. It's actually easier to put together a list of guys who should be doing a lot more with the talent they have. If you mean getting the most out of less-than-elite players, I'd say that Saban drops back a bit in favor of guys like Bill Snyder, Gary Pinkel, David Cutcliffe, and probably a few others.

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The fact that none of those guys have won a national championship says a lot. There is a very long list of guys who have won divisions, conferences, major bowl games, etc. with 2 and 3 star players. To think Saban couldn't do the same is laughable. To win big consistently you have to have top talent consistently. A lot of folks act as if each coach is given the talent their coaching, and neglect the fact that each coach is solely responsible for what they have to work with.

Based off the results of teams like USC, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, Texas - all teams that have had major success, and long periods of bringing in top recruiting classes, and also bouts of mediocrity - I'd say speaks to Sabans ability to get the most out of his players better than most.

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I think the name he has made for himself at Alabama would greatly improve the recruiting at any school he went to. I think that he has honed his "process" over the years to make him very successful. Yall want to act like just anybody can win at Alabama. I remember Perkins, Curry, Dubose, Shula, Fran. Those guys had minimal success at Bama. Saban is in ratified air at the Capstone.

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Whoa - to clarify, I'm in no way, shape, or form diminishing when Saban has done at Alabama, or saying anyone could do what he has done at Alabama.

What I'm saying is - there are different types of coaches for different types of scenarios. I'd argue Saban's best work as a coach was at LSU, not Alabama - but that's another thread

The coach that best describes this would have been Rich Brooks or Franklin. What those two guys did was amazing. We were having a debate about 6 or 7 years ago about the best coach in the SEC Meyer or Saban and I said neither. It was Rich Brooks. Saban certainly maximizes what he has for sure though.