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re: Is Oregon's arguement better than Bama's?

Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:00 am to
Posted by oleheat
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:00 am to
I'll leave their arguement to them- but they simply aren't as good a team as Alabama.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9120 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:03 am to
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Not sure if better, but probably just as good. Their only loss is to the same team, and they both pretty much dominated the rest of their schedule (assuming of course they run the table).
An oregon win over Stanford will look better than any win that Bama has, right?
The more I think about it, if Stanford and OK St both lose, then it's either Oregon or Boise who gets the nod. But who knows. It's going to be a crazy ride. Love the BCS. I don't understand why there is so much hate for the system. It is flat out fun and drama filled every week of every season. No other sport has that.



I realize Alabama lost a game so we can't REALLY expect to be given the benefit of the doubt in all cases but it's funny hearing LSU fans constantly inventing new reasons and scenarios about how Bama has no business being in the rematch discussion.

Oklahoma State loses then its Oklahoma automatically deserves it over Alabama. Who cares that they have a horrible home loss to a barely bowl eligible Texas Tech team.

Oregon wins out and they deserve it because their blowout loss to LSU is less of an issue than Alabama's loss in an OT squeaker.

Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Stanford all lose and then LSU fans will be singing Boise State's praises arguing for them to get their chance because they're a conference champion and Bama isn't after all. :lol:

Okie State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stanford, and Boise State all lose and LSU fans will be telling us that Houston deserves a chance over Alabama because they could probably score a few more on offense against LSU and they are, after all, conference champions. :lol:

LSU loses either to Arkansas or Georgia and they'll deserve a spot in the BCS Title game over Alabama because as we've heard all year they've played Oregon and West Virginia while Alabama hasn't played anyone. :lol:
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:10 am to
I would say Oregon has a better argument for a rematch that Bama for these reasons.

Oregon lost to us week 1 and has had time to improve, while Bama lost late in the year

Oregon would have won its conference while Bama would not have won its own division

Oregon lost on a neutral field that really wasn't neutral at all, while Bama could not win AT HOME!!!

To me, the fact that bama lost at home outweighs anything else.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:12 am to
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it's gonna be interesting if everybody keeps winning


not really

Oklahoma St vs LSU
Posted by 4nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Jun 2009
2844 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:27 am to
Didnt Ore have almost 100yrds of penalties in the LSU game along with thier 3 turnovers? Dont really know how or if that should figure into the voters minds if it were to come down to that.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93765 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:32 am to
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We have two wins over top 12 teams ya idiot,geez at some if you people...


What's funny about that is that Penn St. is so irrelevant and phony, no one remembered.


Whoooaaaa Penn St!

I think they're schedule may be as bad as Boise's.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 9:34 am
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:50 am to
Just cause you got exposed as the idiot you are,don't try to undermind Penn State,one could talk schedule smack about 3/4 of the ranked teams....
Posted by bwhite2435
Eufaula, Alabama
Member since Dec 2008
453 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:51 am to
No the BCS has them to far down to be considered!
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6224 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:05 am to
If the ducks win out, they have the better arguement
Posted by TigerfFaithful
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
353 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:08 am to
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But, that is going to change (given the scenario painted)

1) Bama will play Ga Southern...that will hurt them

2) Penn State (yuck) is going to lose at least 2 games, perhaps 3

3) Arky will have lost to LSU (relax Arky...I am going with the scenario in the OP: LSU is #1 team)

4) Oregon will have beaten Stanford and won a PAC-12 CG



And, Florida plays South Carolina and Florida State, which are two likely losses.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:11 am to
They play in the Pac 10....er 12 or is it 11???
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:15 am to
At the end of the season, I doubt Penn State is still ranked (I think they lose the next three games), and I also think Arkansas will be ranked around 10-11.

The most impressive wins Alabama will have (in my scenario) is a win over 10-2 Arkansas and unranked Auburn (who will have 4 or 5 losses) and Penn State.

Oregon would have a win over a one-loss Stanford ranked in the top 10 (assuming, in this scenario, that Oregon beats Stanford).

But... this only takes into account the strength of schedule. I think most voters would give Bama the benefit of the doubt over Oregon if it comes down to those two teams.

But... I think the voters give a one-loss Oklahoma with a win over a one-loss Oklahoma State the benefit over Bama...

just my relativetly worthless two cents.
Posted by tbonebrah
Member since Jul 2009
2290 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:18 am to
LOL @ the arguments for Oregon cause they played Lsu on a neutral site but no mentions of Oregon getting to face Lsu who was playing without JJ and Russell Sheppard. Not like Lsu needed them against Bama or anything
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:40 am to
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LOL @ the arguments for Oregon cause they played Lsu on a neutral site but no mentions of Oregon getting to face Lsu who was playing without JJ and Russell Sheppard. Not like Lsu needed them against Bama or anything



They also were dealing with suspensions. Cliff Harris or whatever his name is.. is legit.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:41 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:44 am to
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Oregon gave up three turnovers and was in the game till late, while Alabama got two turnovers and couldn't even score a touchdown. D'Anthony Thomas has had time to mature and learn how not to fumble. Oregon should play in NO before Bama.


Turnovers are still part of the game. If not for Claibourne's interception and return, Alabama probably wins the game 6-3. And Oregon wasn't in the game late. It was 40-20 with like 5 minutes left.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:46 am to
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Turnovers are still part of the game. If not for Claibourne's interception and return, Alabama probably wins the game 6-3


If not for Lees two ridiculous INTs, LSU wins 17-3 Oregon hung with LSU until the 4th quarter, and they got worn down.

You can say what you want about them playing in the Pac12.. but that offense is legit and better than any in the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:47 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:47 am to
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If not for Lees two ridiculous INTs, LSU wins 17-3


One of those INTs was on third and long and there was no LSU receiver there. You guys had one good drive all game. Still, the better team finds a way to win and that's exactly what you did.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:50 am to
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One of those INTs was on third and long and there was no LSU receiver there. You guys had one good drive all game. Still, the better team finds a way to win and that's exactly what you did.



Redzone 3 times > Redzone 1 time

LSU dropped a TD pass and Ford (barely) stepped out of bounds on an easy TD run in OT. LSU left more points on the field than Alabama did. Factual information.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:51 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11821 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:17 pm to
IMO LSU and Bama are top 2 teams in the nation right now, and baring an upset both will win out

If Oregon and OU win out then her is what u wlll have:

Oregon - 12-1 conference champ (played an extra game) only loss to #1 team at neutral site, beat USC, Stanford, and PAC-12CG

Oklahoma - 11-1 conference champ, horrible toss to TT

Bama - 11-1 SEC west runner up, only loss to #1 team at home

Stanford - 11-1 PAC-12 N runner up, late season loss, no chance

Oky St. 11-1 Big12-2 runner up, late season loss, no change

Boise St - 12-0 conference no body champ, undefeated, weak schedule, best will likely SECCG loser

So it will come down to Bama, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Boise

computers will decimate Boise, but dont count out the human polls. I can see the 2nd place human votes being split between all 4, but it gonna come down to computer rankings to seperate the pack

So how does the computer poll change over the next few weeks. Bama/OU will suffer from no conference champ game

Oregon has 2 top 25 teams remaining, one that will remain top 7

SEC is not as strong this year as past years, we are top heavy

IMO it will be crazy, with 3 teams all complaining they got screwed, but i think the computers will decide who gets in and that is what will piss off the masses the most....





This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93765 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:29 pm to
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Just cause you got exposed as the idiot you are,


Whoa whoa whoa.


Exposed? When?

please say McCarron, please say McCarron
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